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Old Jun 29, 2008 | 12:10 PM
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Are there any adjustments that have to be made for speedo/odo after gear change?
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Old Jun 29, 2008 | 12:35 PM
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Are there any adjustments that have to be made for speedo/odo after gear change?
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No but you need to adjust shift points on an auto and an acceleration based rev limiter on a manual, at least many people do, myself included.

I can provide you with screen shots of the rev limiter if you need them, or you can search for my thread on the topic (I don't have it bookmarked on my iphone where I am posting from)
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Old Jun 29, 2008 | 03:10 PM
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so why is the reason that rear gears in this car dont need to get the speedo recalid or pcm tuned? is the speed sensor on the wheel or axle shaft?

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Reluctor (sp?) for the speedo is in the ring gear.
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The reason I asked is that my mileage has taken a nosedive. Around town with a little interstate I average 14.6 mpg with the 3.90's and 6MZ. On a trip to Dallas and back I averaged just over 23 mpg. These numbers are far below what I expected. Tune by Chuck CoW should have helped by leaning it out some, but mileage s***s.
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I thought about gears but I really love the mileage I get.

I have hot footed around with other vehicles, at this time I am happy with the tuned LS3.

For me the loss of mileage is a killer.
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The reason I asked is that my mileage has taken a nosedive. Around town with a little interstate I average 14.6 mpg with the 3.90's and 6MZ. On a trip to Dallas and back I averaged just over 23 mpg. These numbers are far below what I expected. Tune by Chuck CoW should have helped by leaning it out some, but mileage s***s.
Speedo needs nothing when changing gears. My mileage hits 30 straight hwy, with a little in town mix 25.8 ave last tank. I have 3.90's with the base tranny so my 6th is where yours was.
1.95 vs 1.94 6th ratio's
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Reluctor (sp?) for the speedo is in the ring gear.
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speedo input comes from diff but from input shaft not output to wheels.

I have 3:90 and there was no negative change in gas mileage. I can use 6th gear more around town than before. On a resent 250 mile trip I averaged 32 mpg at 75 mph
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I have a spreadsheet tracking every gallon of gas used in my car since I bought it 20+k miles ago.

The 3.90's and headers were put on at the same time and I lost 1.0 mpg. The cam was put in a year later and I lost 1.82 mpg from the cam.

I still get highway runs > 20mpg but if I drive in stop and go traffic I've had tanks go as low at 16 mpg.

Before mods average MPG was 19.95 overall
After gears & headers 18.94 mpg overall
After cam 17.12 mpg overall

Most of my daily drive is city with 6 miles highway. Hope that data helps.
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by mikesul
The reason I asked is that my mileage has taken a nosedive. Around town with a little interstate I average 14.6 mpg with the 3.90's and 6MZ. On a trip to Dallas and back I averaged just over 23 mpg. These numbers are far below what I expected. Tune by Chuck CoW should have helped by leaning it out some, but mileage s***s.
Funny thing is.......A car with gears and NO CAM will usually only lose 2mpg when driven responsibly. Adding a cam in conjunction with gears, expect some losses....

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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 01:45 PM
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Must be the GT-11 cam then. I really don't get into it that often to knock down the around town mileage to < 15 mpg.

Thanks, Joe for letting me know others have seen the drop.
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Originally Posted by mikesul
Must be the GT-11 cam then. I really don't get into it that often to knock down the around town mileage to < 15 mpg.

Thanks, Joe for letting me know others have seen the drop.
Mike, pm my buddy Rwsjr. He has your exact cam, and I don't think he has any mpg issues. I am concerned that you have something else going in. Do you have hp tuners and thus can you scan your car?
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 03:36 PM
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One uses gas with the throttle and wastes gas with the brake. Just my 2ct worth.
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Mike, pm my buddy Rwsjr. He has your exact cam, and I don't think he has any mpg issues. I am concerned that you have something else going in. Do you have hp tuners and thus can you scan your car?
Mine is an '05 A4 w 3:15's that got 26-27mpg(hwy) stock. Added heads cam(G5x-3),headers w cats ls2 edit tune - 22.5mpg(hwy) Since went with GT-11 cam, ported F.A.S.T. , 2400stall converter, HPtuners. Now at 23mpg(hwy) 70-80mph avg on last trip to Cruise in. 2000 -2200 rpm avg. I would expect a MN6 to get better, even with the 3.90's. The GT-11 cam is so much like stock cruising, i can't see it destroying your mpg. The tune is everything
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by mikesul
Must be the GT-11 cam then. I really don't get into it that often to knock down the around town mileage to < 15 mpg.

Thanks, Joe for letting me know others have seen the drop.
Any chance you have a before and after dyno graph for the GT-11 cam?

Pat
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 11:59 PM
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Someone needs to help me to I have the GT-11 and mine is around 16 as well. FAST intake,Kooks 1 3/4 with cats,Borlas, LPE cold air, Dart 225heads, 6-speed, some minor tuning. I had to have alot of fuel down low (650-2000 rpm)to even out fuel trims. The car would set mil light almost instantly with a lean right and left bank. Car gets same mileage before and after needs something else changed.
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Originally Posted by catpat8000
Any chance you have a before and after dyno graph for the GT-11 cam?

Pat
Sorry,
Had headers. ported intake & T-B, and 3.90's before I added the GT-11. Still haven't had a dyno yet.
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