Loose rear end


If you have never toyed with what differences in handling alignments settings make i think you will find a massive difference in handling dynamics just on different alignment settings.

Whether you make all the mods listed in this thread or none of them, this is the single most important post in your thread. You have to know where you're at and where you're going WRT to your alignment settings. Whether it's toe, camber, or caster, the affect each positive or negative adjustment has on the front or the rear WRT handling dynamics is so very important to know. Every mod you make to your suspension will change the handling dynamics requiring new alignment settings. Those mods run from the obvious like springs and stabilizer bars to the not so obvious like poly bushings or stiffer stabilizer bar links or even tires. If I had your situation, I'd look at the rear toe setting first. If it has toe out or it's at zero toe, you've found your problem and you need to go to toe in. If it has toe in, I'd dial in a little more toe in if it's not at the max allowed by the specs. Next check rear camber to see if it's out of spec. Again, if you find zero or positive camber, you've found your problem. Just remember when you adjust camber (and caster on the front), you change the toe setting. If you're not worried about tire wear, don't hesitate to venture outside of the specs for even more grip.
The ideal thing is learn how to do alignments yourself so you're not paying $100 every time you feel the need to tweak a setting. Kind of like the old saying about the man and fish...give a man a fish and he'll eat good for one night, teach a man to fish and he'll eat good forever. I do all my alignments myself and have taught others, it's way too easy with cheap/simple tools (carpenters square, dial caliper, 3'-4' level, cloth tape measure, and calculator). I always start with a "baseline" setting (varies by car/mods/driver) and then dial it in from there to achieve maximum grip, excellent turn-in, balanced/predictable handling, good manners at the limit to inspire confidence, and of course even wear. I even have different alignments for high and low speed courses.
Trust what the guy above says, there is no better mod for your car than a good alignment. If you take it some place, make sure the shop caters to road racers and make sure you tell them what the car is doing now and what you want it to do. Like C6400hp says, "you will find a massive difference in handling dynamics".
1) I'm assuming your tires were warm but if for some reason you felt looseness when you first start driving, the tires could have been a little cold. This is more true the colder it gets outside.
2) How smooth are you on/off the throttle. Goose the throttle and you do invite the rear to come around.
3) I've always found the Vette a little tail happy so that could be its natural tendency.
4) Sway bars are always fun to adjust but you can always increase your oversteer problem if you don't change your swaybars for the better. Since you would like the car to be less loose, what you are essentially trying to do is soften the rear (after you look into alignment). To soften the rear, you can take out a little air from the rear tires, add some air to the front tires, stiffen (usually means larger) the front sway bar, soften (usually means smaller) the rear. If you change front and rear sway bars, make sure that you increase the stiffness of the front more than the back. You can change your shocks and then you have to reassess if your oversteer got better or worse. You can even change your springs so that the net change leaves the rear less stiffly sprung. I'd start with tire pressures and alignment cause they're easy.
Rear toe - slightly in should help as the poster above said. I'd just be careful and watch your tire wear if you put a lot of it in. Also, too much could adversely affect your handling too. So its a nice fine balance...
Last edited by gomerjack; Aug 25, 2008 at 12:37 AM.
I think the minor changes that will be made will make a noticeable difference in how the back end feels. The only question I have left is about ride height. What is everyone's opinion about that? I've heard some say that it really won't make any difference and that if I change it too much it could actually give me an adverse effect.










