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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 04:03 AM
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If I use this stuff will I be looking into voiding my warranty, what will it do for my car and can I use it all the time.

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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by 38 Years Later
If I use this stuff will I be looking into voiding my warranty
It could yes, if they were to ever test for it.




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what will it do for my car
Not too much actually, the car might run the same as it would with 93 octane but in most cases could run notably worse. Without tuning for it (and even in some cases where you have tuned for it) 100 octane fuel can have a similar effect as using 87 octane fuel would, the car just won't run as well. On a stock/nearly stock C6 a fuel with a higher octane rating than 91-94 is simply not needed.




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can I use it all the time.
I wouldn't use it EVER, in a stock Corvette at least.
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 07:36 AM
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I don't think it would hurt.............or help anything.
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 07:57 AM
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in very hot and humid weather doing a 93:100 5:1 mix may help destination slightly

Other then that just empty your wallet quicker.

100 octane is for high compression race cars.
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 08:03 AM
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It won't hurt the engine and there would be no warranty concern. Using anything over 91 octane is just wasting money because there is no performance gain.
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 08:53 AM
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My GF uses it on her 98 Z28 because she likes the smell, no problems though
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 09:42 AM
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If it's unleaded it won't cause any problems except for the large waste of money. Racing engines need racing gas. No street car needs racing gas unless built up with massive compression or boost. Then it's kind of getting away from a street car.

Or if your area can't get decent 92 or 93, then it would benefit a Vette or anything requiring premium to mix in a percent of 100 unleaded to boost up the octane to a decent level. If I could only get 91, I'd try a 1/4 tank of 100 mixed in.

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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 10:08 AM
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Ok then I don't need it. Thanks very much
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The 100 octane could damage your cats. Don't use it.
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Unless you are mixing 100 octane with something else to yeild 92-93 octane, you will probably loose power. unless you raise your compression in the 13:1 range, it will run a hell of a lot better.
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91 octane is what the engine is designed for.
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Originally Posted by Walt White Coupe
91 octane is what the engine is designed for.
GM website says 93 octane for best performance, even plain C6. The manual says 91...
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There's a really great post on the C-5 site (which I can't find right now) which talks about the relationship between octane ratings and actual engine output. Most of us grew-up thinking that the higher the octane...the more powerful the fuel...higher octane would result in better performance. Actually, that's not necessarily true. To be honest, a fuel rated in the 80's is probably more "explosive" than fuel rated at 100+. The reason is...that the higher octane ratings were a result of engines that had higher compression ratios. High octane was introduced as a way to solve the problem of detonation in high compression engines. So, the lower the octane rating...the higher the explosive capacity of a gallon of gasoline. I know it sounds counter to what we think...but the higher octane ratings are designed to counter "knock" and other problems that can destroy a high compression engine.
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Originally Posted by c5creech
There's a really great post on the C-5 site (which I can't find right now) which talks about the relationship between octane ratings and actual engine output. Most of us grew-up thinking that the higher the octane...the more powerful the fuel...higher octane would result in better performance. Actually, that's not necessarily true. .
Exactly. The engine management software must be there to take advantage of it.. On Audi Turbo's some chip tuners offer 91, 93 and 100 octane programs. For the most part the differences are only timing changes. A 300 hp car on 93 may make 340 on 100 but the programming is written specifically for the octane. On the Vette, timing will naturally advance to the table values depending on Knock detection. To my knowledge it cannot advance beyond those fixed tables unless manuallly adjusted in the tune..It would be a major PITA to switch tunes depending on your current fill-up octane. Not worth it IMO..
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Originally Posted by Walt White Coupe
It won't hurt the engine and there would be no warranty concern. Using anything over 91 octane is just wasting money because there is no performance gain.
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Originally Posted by Hoonose
GM website says 93 octane for best performance, even plain C6. The manual says 91...
I go with the manual too, 87.......The ECU curves will top out at no more than 93, without that information, the engines will never 'see' 100 octane.....And as others have posted, it may not burn in a similar fashion to 91, making it tough on the rest of the systems.....
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Originally Posted by 38 Years Later
If I use this stuff will I be looking into voiding my warranty, what will it do for my car and can I use it all the time.

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There is not much (if any) energy content difference between 93 octane gasoline and 100 octane gasoline. Higher octane fuels provide for better propagation of the flame front, providing for a more even fuel burn and pressure distribution on the piston.

If you use a lower octane fuel that produces some detonation, the knock sensors will back out spark timing and therefore the fuel economy may decrease. This decrease in fuel economy is not because of lower gasoline energy content.

The C6 is designed to take advantage for gasolines up to 93 (R+M)/2 octane. A 93 octane gasoline will allow for maximun spark timing, thus providing the most available power and fuel economy. Beyond 93 R+M/2 octane gasoline, there is no advantage, since the electronic spark control programing will not provide additional spark timing, and also, since the compression ratio is fixed, there is no need or benefit for a fuel above 93 octane.

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Why does the owner's manual say 91 octane?
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Originally Posted by Walt White Coupe
Why does the owner's manual say 91 octane?
Possibly because 91 is the highest found in some areas. The web site has always said 93 for 'maximum performance', and I have mixed up my own 93 for years. But this past year with pump 91 I see or feel no difference. I don't race, and have not measured any parameters to see if there actually is any difference.
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