Kooks vs lg
Drifting
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From: Montgomery Il.
Melting Slicks
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Kooks 1 7/8 here and here are my pics from LS1tech 
http://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=955917
http://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=955917
Drifting
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From: Montgomery Il.
Kooks 1 7/8 here and here are my pics from LS1tech
http://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=955917
http://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=955917
Drifting
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From: no. jersey Photo by Stro
St. Jude Donor '08
98ramair, i apologize for your inconvinience. Had you called us a new header would have been shipped overnight, no questions asked. I assure you quality control is a top priority. When things slip past us we take care of them with outstanding customer service. Send me the tap and die set you purchased along with the invoice and i'll reimburse you for your inconvinience.
Nick
Nick
Burning Brakes
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From: Macon Georgia
Not to be an A**, but I don't understand why so many people think that this is such a GOOD deal.
If I wanted my money back for the tap/die set, I would have just taken them back to the store I bought them from. I do understand AR is saying they will refund the set, but my point is, if I hadn't of found this set at a parts store locally, my car would have been stuck on a friends lift until a new header came in!! I started my header install on a Fri. night, and because of this, I didn't finish my install until Sun. afternoon. I had employee's at my buddy's shop wondering and asking why a job I told them would only take about 4-5 hrs. took me an entire weekend. Besides if I had waited on a new header, I doubt it would have been in my hands until Tue, maybe Wed. Like I said, the bungs should have been checked before leaving AR.
I'm not knocking AR, but me sending the tap/die set to AR for a refund doesn't make me feel any better after wasting a whole weekend on 1 header install!!! It was a nice gesture, but wouldn't of helped me out much.
If I wanted my money back for the tap/die set, I would have just taken them back to the store I bought them from. I do understand AR is saying they will refund the set, but my point is, if I hadn't of found this set at a parts store locally, my car would have been stuck on a friends lift until a new header came in!! I started my header install on a Fri. night, and because of this, I didn't finish my install until Sun. afternoon. I had employee's at my buddy's shop wondering and asking why a job I told them would only take about 4-5 hrs. took me an entire weekend. Besides if I had waited on a new header, I doubt it would have been in my hands until Tue, maybe Wed. Like I said, the bungs should have been checked before leaving AR.
I'm not knocking AR, but me sending the tap/die set to AR for a refund doesn't make me feel any better after wasting a whole weekend on 1 header install!!! It was a nice gesture, but wouldn't of helped me out much.
Last edited by 98ramair; Sep 2, 2008 at 04:21 PM.
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Not to be an A**, but I don't understand why so many people think that this is such a GOOD deal.
If I wanted my money back for the tap/die set, I would have just taken them back to the store I bought them from. I do understand AR is saying they will refund the set, but my point is, if I hadn't of found this set at a parts store locally, my car would have been stuck on a friends lift until a new header came in!! I started my header install on a Fri. night, and because of this, I didn't finish my install until Sun. afternoon. I had employee's at my buddy's shop wondering and asking why a job I told them would only take about 4-5 hrs. took me an entire weekend. Besides if I had waited on a new header, I doubt it would have been in hands until Tue, maybe Wed. Like I said, the bungs should have been checked before leaving AR.
I'm not knocking AR, but me sending the tap/die set to AR for a refund doesn't make me feel any better after wasting a whole weekend on 1 header install!!! It was a nice gesture, but wouldn't of helped me out much.
If I wanted my money back for the tap/die set, I would have just taken them back to the store I bought them from. I do understand AR is saying they will refund the set, but my point is, if I hadn't of found this set at a parts store locally, my car would have been stuck on a friends lift until a new header came in!! I started my header install on a Fri. night, and because of this, I didn't finish my install until Sun. afternoon. I had employee's at my buddy's shop wondering and asking why a job I told them would only take about 4-5 hrs. took me an entire weekend. Besides if I had waited on a new header, I doubt it would have been in hands until Tue, maybe Wed. Like I said, the bungs should have been checked before leaving AR.
I'm not knocking AR, but me sending the tap/die set to AR for a refund doesn't make me feel any better after wasting a whole weekend on 1 header install!!! It was a nice gesture, but wouldn't of helped me out much.
jmho
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Drifting
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From: Middletown DE
Just installed Kooks on a 07 Z Sat. Took about 4 hrs. on a lift doing it all by myself, used air tools to remove most of it......put new stuff on with hand tools! I've done 3 different set of Kooks, 2 on C6 coupes and 1 on my Z, I put American Racing on my last 07 Z, took a little longer.....ran into a problem with one of the o2 bungs, make sure you test the bungs before you install the headers, I had to take down the right header and use a tap/die set to actually make threads in the bung.......came from AR like that!! I was not happy, had to buy a metric tap/die set ($120) to fix something that should of been looked at before leaving AR......I guess they figure the HELL with quality control!!! Should of complained to AR, but just let it go. In answer to the original ?, you can't go wrong with Kooks.
Last edited by NIGHTSTALKER; Sep 3, 2008 at 07:22 AM.
Burning Brakes
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From: Macon Georgia
Unfortunately something similar happen to a friend of mine (Non-Forum Vendor, Shop Owner) with AR headers 2 weekends ago. They were also Z06 headers. In this case it was a bad weld on one of the bungs. The threads were contaminated. He ruined an o2 in the process. He had an unhappy out of state customer that was up from MI for the Vette show in Carlisle on his hands.
Drifting
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From: Montgomery Il.
need a tap or die? not knowing the size but i'll be willing to bet McMaster-Carr has what you need plus you only have to buy the one you want. btw they also have the fastest shipping i have ever dealt with.
http://www.mcmaster.com/
http://www.mcmaster.com/
Drifting
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Depends on what you are doing....... LG has better mid range and the Kooks hold the power a little longer on the very top....
In my humble opinion....
Top end and 1/4 mile = Kooks
Road racing = LG
For the record, I have AR headers......
In my humble opinion....
Top end and 1/4 mile = Kooks
Road racing = LG
For the record, I have AR headers......
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From: Amityville ny 631-608-1986
Not to be an A**, but I don't understand why so many people think that this is such a GOOD deal.
If I wanted my money back for the tap/die set, I would have just taken them back to the store I bought them from. I do understand AR is saying they will refund the set, but my point is, if I hadn't of found this set at a parts store locally, my car would have been stuck on a friends lift until a new header came in!! I started my header install on a Fri. night, and because of this, I didn't finish my install until Sun. afternoon. I had employee's at my buddy's shop wondering and asking why a job I told them would only take about 4-5 hrs. took me an entire weekend. Besides if I had waited on a new header, I doubt it would have been in my hands until Tue, maybe Wed. Like I said, the bungs should have been checked before leaving AR.
I'm not knocking AR, but me sending the tap/die set to AR for a refund doesn't make me feel any better after wasting a whole weekend on 1 header install!!! It was a nice gesture, but wouldn't of helped me out much.
If I wanted my money back for the tap/die set, I would have just taken them back to the store I bought them from. I do understand AR is saying they will refund the set, but my point is, if I hadn't of found this set at a parts store locally, my car would have been stuck on a friends lift until a new header came in!! I started my header install on a Fri. night, and because of this, I didn't finish my install until Sun. afternoon. I had employee's at my buddy's shop wondering and asking why a job I told them would only take about 4-5 hrs. took me an entire weekend. Besides if I had waited on a new header, I doubt it would have been in my hands until Tue, maybe Wed. Like I said, the bungs should have been checked before leaving AR.
I'm not knocking AR, but me sending the tap/die set to AR for a refund doesn't make me feel any better after wasting a whole weekend on 1 header install!!! It was a nice gesture, but wouldn't of helped me out much.
Nightstalker, Your shop owner friend never reached out to us. Had he the problem would have been solved immediately. Regardless of the outcome PM me his name and number and I'll call him ASAP.
Nick
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From: Greater Detroit Metro MI, when I'm not travelling.
Kooks here. I got them over LGs because they were cheaper and, most importantly, because I could buy them ceramic coated (that is very important for me).
They fit perfectly and required zero modifications or hassle to install. I did the installation myself in a parking garage with the car up on jackstands; it was the first time I ever tried something like this on a GM vehicle and it still only took me 3.5 hours.
It was one of the best mods I've ever done to any car.
They fit perfectly and required zero modifications or hassle to install. I did the installation myself in a parking garage with the car up on jackstands; it was the first time I ever tried something like this on a GM vehicle and it still only took me 3.5 hours.
It was one of the best mods I've ever done to any car.
Burning Brakes
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From: Dallas TX
I have a set of kooks 1 3/4 headers currently on the car...
I am going this weekend up to LG to swap my headers for some LG headers. I will have some dyno sheets and other info about the two. It should be a nice little comparison. I just currently had the car dynoed and will have it dynoed again once the LG headers are on.
I should have a tech thread up by saturday night!
I am going this weekend up to LG to swap my headers for some LG headers. I will have some dyno sheets and other info about the two. It should be a nice little comparison. I just currently had the car dynoed and will have it dynoed again once the LG headers are on.
I should have a tech thread up by saturday night!
Melting Slicks
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From: NJ..."the way I saw it, everyone takes a beating sometimes."
I have a set of kooks 1 3/4 headers currently on the car...
I am going this weekend up to LG to swap my headers for some LG headers. I will have some dyno sheets and other info about the two. It should be a nice little comparison. I just currently had the car dynoed and will have it dynoed again once the LG headers are on.
I should have a tech thread up by saturday night!
I am going this weekend up to LG to swap my headers for some LG headers. I will have some dyno sheets and other info about the two. It should be a nice little comparison. I just currently had the car dynoed and will have it dynoed again once the LG headers are on.
I should have a tech thread up by saturday night!
Burning Brakes
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From: Dallas TX
I was just at LG this past weekend. I just did a before/after on a FAST 92 over the stock ported. I was hoping to do a full tech thread from the results of both the FAST and the LG header swap.
Although, Spin kind of already beat me to it and posted some of my results of my FAST!
I am a complete bolt on car. Everything minus gears... although, gears wouldn't do anything for me on the dyno.
My numbers are low... and I gained very little from the kooks headers, less than what was expected. Which is why I wanted to take part in this little endeavor of switching headers. I will let you know the results.
Like I said, full tech thread on Saturday night hopefully!
Melting Slicks
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From: NJ..."the way I saw it, everyone takes a beating sometimes."
I'm talking with Louis about this right now.
I was just at LG this past weekend. I just did a before/after on a FAST 92 over the stock ported. I was hoping to do a full tech thread from the results of both the FAST and the LG header swap.
Although, Spin kind of already beat me to it and posted some of my results of my FAST!
I am a complete bolt on car. Everything minus gears... although, gears wouldn't do anything for me on the dyno.
My numbers are low... and I gained very little from the kooks headers, less than what was expected. Which is why I wanted to take part in this little endeavor of switching headers. I will let you know the results.
Like I said, full tech thread on Saturday night hopefully!
I was just at LG this past weekend. I just did a before/after on a FAST 92 over the stock ported. I was hoping to do a full tech thread from the results of both the FAST and the LG header swap.
Although, Spin kind of already beat me to it and posted some of my results of my FAST!
I am a complete bolt on car. Everything minus gears... although, gears wouldn't do anything for me on the dyno.
My numbers are low... and I gained very little from the kooks headers, less than what was expected. Which is why I wanted to take part in this little endeavor of switching headers. I will let you know the results.
Like I said, full tech thread on Saturday night hopefully!
Burning Brakes
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