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Old Sep 2, 2008 | 10:51 PM
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Hi folks,

I am back with another newbie question

I would like to install the headlamp washer on my vette, that doesn't have it because it isn't an export model.

Here's a high level overview of the parts that I know that I have to install:



My question is regarding the headlamp washer pump, part number 6 on the schematic.

Now I've taken of the front liner of the car (succesfully thanks to your help ) and from what I see there is only a wire for the windshield washer pump but there is no wire for the headlamp washer pump. Plus a wire for the water level detection, I assume.

According to the schematics I have (4-276 for those who have the service manual) the headlamp washer should be on relay 46.

Now the interesting thing is that relay 46 is physically present in the fuse box

So here are my questions:

1/ Where is the wire from that relay? Is it physically installed and I didn't see it? I only have one washer pump installed and it's for the windshield. That I am sure of.

2/ If I find the wire, by some miracle, or install one. Can I just connect the headlamp washer or is there going to be some reprogramming involved?

3/ If I have to install a wire from the relay; has anyone done it before I take it apart?

Thanks in advance for any insight,

Cedric

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Old Sep 3, 2008 | 12:56 AM
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Well after having read in more detail the service manual, I see that the headlamp washer is powered by wire 1197 which should purple in color.

According to the electric layout of the car, that wire should be in harness J101. I had a look at J101 where it was accessible and there is effectively a purple wire in it.

Apparently I did not look well enough at the washer reservoir. I will take another look this weekend, chances are that the purple wire is the correct one and does go all the way to the reservoir.

I will have to do a conductivity test though to ensure that it is the correct wire.

Additionally, from what I have read in the service manual, the BCM does activate the headlamp washer, every 4 requests.

So with a spot of luck I will have nothing to do but install the stuff, if that's the case I owe a big thanks to BG dudes ...



Cedric, who's off to bed now.
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Old Sep 3, 2008 | 11:25 AM
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I can't help you with the install, but why do you want this? I think just on looks alone I would pass, it breaks up the nice lines on the front....
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Old Sep 3, 2008 | 12:04 PM
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Good luck on this project. No idea why you'd want to do it other than to be different.
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Originally Posted by 95blklsc
I can't help you with the install, but why do you want this? I think just on looks alone I would pass, it breaks up the nice lines on the front....
Hi,

The reason being that I am here on a VISA and that one day I may have to go back home, i.e. France.

As I want to keep my vette, regardless if I stay or go back, I need to make sure it is euro compliant.

For that I have a couple of things to do, amongst others putting the headlamp washers.

I want to take care of this now, because if my company sends me back or my VISA doesn't get renewed, then I will have other things to do then take care of my vette.

So I might as well get it done now: never put off to tomorrow what you can do today.

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Old Sep 3, 2008 | 10:25 PM
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I'd put the parts in a box and wait until the last possible moment to install them.

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Old Sep 3, 2008 | 11:12 PM
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Interesting project, kindly keep us updated.
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I'd put the parts in a box and wait until the last possible moment to install them.

San
Hi San,

That thought is seriously lingering in my mind, but I would like to get the parts now and make sure everything is working. I like to minimize last minute issues

That being said, my wife is advising me to install the parts now, even if I don't connect them so that I get used to the look of the vette

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Originally Posted by ben dover
Interesting project, kindly keep us updated.
Yup will do, seams as if I will be the first ... or the others are keeping mum

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Hi Cedric

I'm not sure, but after you install all the parts, you will probably have to take it to a dealer to get them to use a Tech 2 to activate the feature in your BCM. If that's the case, it might be easier to find a Tech 2 here than over in Europe.

I hope you can work out to stay here in the States!!!

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Originally Posted by Cro
Hi San,

That thought is seriously lingering in my mind, but I would like to get the parts now and make sure everything is working. I like to minimize last minute issues

That being said, my wife is advising me to install the parts now, even if I don't connect them so that I get used to the look of the vette

a++ Cedric
I don't think you should get used to the look of the vette with the parts. I think you should be optimistic and hope you will stay here for a long time. I understand being ready, but would you dress your wife in a potato sack? The vette deserves the same, to look good. I hope everything works out for you and yours.

San
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Originally Posted by ben dover
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Hi guys,

Does anyone have a reputable shop they could recommend to me to get those parts?

I initially sent an email to Gene CULLEY, having no response, I called him up this morning and he told me, that he doesn't have the time to take care of my request ...

So if anybody has reputable alternatives, I'm interested.

Thanks,



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Originally Posted by Cro
Hi guys,

Does anyone have a reputable shop they could recommend to me to get those parts?

I initially sent an email to Gene CULLEY, having no response, I called him up this morning and he told me, that he doesn't have the time to take care of my request and hang up on me without even saying sorry, goodbye or whatever ...

So if anybody has reputable alternatives, I'm interested.

Thanks,



Cedric

ps: I sent him an email because one of the parts (the headlamp washer pump) doesn't have a price and there was a "Ask for quote button"


I find that very hard to believe....everytime I talk to Gene he is more than friendly and takes the time to help me out.


I might also add that his website has a catalog with prices etc.

So I really do not understand why you are having an issue.
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Originally Posted by pewter99
I find that very hard to believe....everytime I talk to Gene he is more than friendly and takes the time to help me out.


I might also add that his website has a catalog with prices etc.

So I really do not understand why you are having an issue.
Hi,

Well if you look here:

http://www.trademotion.com/partlocat...layCatalogid=0

You can see a small icon that states "Request Price", which I did by sending an email last week to him.

As for the rest, it's misunderstanding between him and I. I thought that he had sent me packing but in fact his phone was having issues. Problem fixed.

a++ Cedric

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Old Sep 10, 2008 | 05:25 AM
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Hi, I´m a German C6 owner and imported the Vette to Germany myself, after I bought her in Louisiana. There was no problem to register the C6 in Europe without headlamp washers. The only thing I needed was a certificate of exemption and to get it was fairly easy. So why spending money for garbage that you never need?

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Old Sep 10, 2008 | 06:27 AM
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I am over here in Europe as well and I have never seen a corvette with the washers installed. Yes there is a small port under each headlight with a cap on it but no washers. I have even been in a chevrolet dealership and seen new corvettes on the showroom floor without the washers. Hmmmmmm go figure.
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Old Sep 10, 2008 | 06:50 AM
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You don't washers, but you will need to change the tail lamps. That is a simple project.
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Old Sep 10, 2008 | 08:45 AM
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Hi guys,

Well I have interacted with some people in the French Corvette Club and with a couple of American car import specialists in Paris.

All are adamant about the fact that French authorities will not let you register the car unless it has the headlamp washers for the Xeon lights and compliant rear tail lights (amongst other things).

I know that some European countries are less stringent than others, but if I register the car in Germany for example, I will have to go through the process in France anyway because the car is not of European origin ... this problem is faced by certain people who buy US imported Corvettes from Germany and bring them to France.

Of course I am aware of certain people who have been able to get away with it (lack of headlamp washers in particular), but I am not the sort of person to push something under the table. It will cost me less to put the washers in the first place anyway ....

But, with some luck this exercise will be futile, and the vette will never see France

Please note that all Corvettes sold in Europe by GM, i.e. those having a cover upfront, do have a headlamp washer system. The cover that is on the bumper protects the washer system when it is not in use. When you wash the lamps, the covers are pushed up by the washers.

The GM Service Manual states the headlamps are washed every four wash cycles of the windshield. So if you have a European Corvette it should be very easy to verify.



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Old Sep 10, 2008 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Cro
Hi,

The reason being that I am here on a VISA and that one day I may have to go back home, i.e. France.

As I want to keep my vette, regardless if I stay or go back, I need to make sure it is euro compliant.

For that I have a couple of things to do, amongst others putting the headlamp washers.

I want to take care of this now, because if my company sends me back or my VISA doesn't get renewed, then I will have other things to do then take care of my vette.

So I might as well get it done now: never put off to tomorrow what you can do today.

Regards,



Cedric
I hope this is not a stupid question, but are headlamp washers now a requirement in Europe? Just curious. I know Mercedes, Volvo and a few others have them, but I thought that was just to be different. Good luck with the install. Sounds like a lot of work.
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