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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 01:00 PM
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I have been working on a budget build for my C6 to see what performance I can get while keeping cost to a minimum. I have thrown money and parts at cars in past to make big power and wanted to try something different. I will be dynoing the car Monday night and dialing in the WOT tuning so we will see how I did. All work was done by myself, including porting the heads.

Car: 2006 1LT C6 Manual
Mods: K&N Filters
Ported TB, intake, heads
.041 head gaskets for a little compression bump
XMS closeout cam and springs- 228/232 .588/.598 112 cam and 918 springs
Portmatched exhaust manifolds, stock cats and mid-pipe, and Borla Stingers
Diablo Sport baseline tune
WOT tuning with diablo by your truely.

Once this test is done I plan to put headers and change to HP tuners to see what I can do with it.

What do you think it will make?????
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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by N2O4YOU
I have been working on a budget build for my C6 to see what performance I can get while keeping cost to a minimum. I have thrown money and parts at cars in past to make big power and wanted to try something different. I will be dynoing the car Monday night and dialing in the WOT tuning so we will see how I did. All work was done by myself, including porting the heads.

Car: 2006 1LT C6 Manual
Mods: K&N Filters
Ported TB, intake, heads
.041 head gaskets for a little compression bump
XMS closeout cam and springs- 228/232 .588/.598 112 cam and 918 springs
Portmatched exhaust manifolds, stock cats and mid-pipe, and Borla Stingers
Diablo Sport baseline tune
WOT tuning with diablo by your truely.

Once this test is done I plan to put headers and change to HP tuners to see what I can do with it.

What do you think it will make?????
I think you will come in around 414- 417 RWHP/TQ on a dynojet. The addition of LT HEADERS & a PRO TUNE should get you around 440RWHP
& 418TQ. Just a gustimate. Hope you do better. Could use a FAST for
more.
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Old Sep 6, 2008 | 02:29 PM
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I am hopin to break 420, we'll see
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Old Sep 6, 2008 | 02:44 PM
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It's going to depend on how good you are at porting heads. If you get them flowing like LS3's or better, you could be north of 420. A better flowing exhaust will get you a bunch of power also. Dyno differences will play a part. Good luck with it. Bottom line is.....it will be a lot of fun no matter what the #'s are!
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Old Sep 6, 2008 | 06:15 PM
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I see you went with 918s. Those are single valve springs correct?

I honestly would have suggested you go with the 921s, which are dual. Even tho the 918s are rated to .600 lift, I would suggest using dual valve springs on any cam upgrade.
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Old Sep 6, 2008 | 08:20 PM
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I see you went with 918s. Those are single valve springs correct?

I honestly would have suggested you go with the 921s, which are dual. Even tho the 918s are rated to .600 lift, I would suggest using dual valve springs on any cam upgrade.
These were the revised 918's that are supposedly good to.625. Honestly, I had duals on last car becuase I spun it to 7200 rpms quite often and built the car to do so. This car is a DD and no track use. I just want a fun street car and will not be raising limiter or holding at redline over and over. I did use these springs on a simular cam in past and did push it very hard with no issue. In the spirit of a budget build, they were right choice.

When I decide to get crazy later, I will go with bigger heads, better valvetrain, big cam, more, more, more...... but that is not were I am building car right now.
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Old Sep 6, 2008 | 09:20 PM
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im gonna say without a fast or lt headers, 405rwhp

canx that.. i didn't see the port tb, intake, AND HEADS part. 440, ad some lt's for 460
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Old Sep 7, 2008 | 04:51 PM
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My money says 410-413 horse and 387-390 lb-ft to the tires.
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I am hopin to break 420, we'll see

Let's go with 427 RWHP as you did a better job than you think on the heads
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Let's go with 427 RWHP as you did a better job than you think on the heads
Thanks for the vote of confidence on the heads. I can tell the car is going to strong once headers and tune are done. Just unsure how restrictive the manifolds will be.
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Well got the car dyno'ed today.
Car made 344RWHP and 316 RWTQ on Mustan Dyno. Stock C6 on there dynos run 300-305 hp. He claims that this would be 400/367 on a Dynojet. He states he is typically witin 2-4 hp on his comparo.

So....... Not what I hoped but with a Diablo tuner and no headers, i can't complain. The tm was kicking in and getting what appeared to be a lot of false knock.

I will do headers and HP tuners this fall or winter and see what it does then.

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Originally Posted by N2O4YOU
Well got the car dyno'ed today.
Car made 344RWHP and 316 RWTQ on Mustan Dyno. Stock C6 on there dynos run 300-305 hp. He claims that this would be 400/367 on a Dynojet. He states he is typically witin 2-4 hp on his comparo.

So....... Not what I hoped but with a Diablo tuner and no headers, i can't complain. The tm was kicking in and getting what appeared to be a lot of false knock.

I will do headers and HP tuners this fall or winter and see what it does then.
Without headers you're kind of putting the cart before the horse. That Mustang Dyno is also reading extremely low, usually they are only 10-20 hp lower, not 50. I made 365 on a Mustang bone stock.
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Originally Posted by N2O4YOU
Well got the car dyno'ed today.
Car made 344RWHP and 316 RWTQ on Mustan Dyno. Stock C6 on there dynos run 300-305 hp. He claims that this would be 400/367 on a Dynojet. He states he is typically witin 2-4 hp on his comparo.

So....... Not what I hoped but with a Diablo tuner and no headers, i can't complain. The tm was kicking in and getting what appeared to be a lot of false knock.

I will do headers and HP tuners this fall or winter and see what it does then.
Did you just plop the diablotune in and go? Or did you calibrate the tune for your exact car? If you didn't calibrate it...get ahold of 06MonteSS on this forum or the Diablosport forum...he will fix you up with getting rid of that KR and getting more power from the tune.
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by N2O4YOU
Well got the car dyno'ed today.
Car made 344RWHP and 316 RWTQ on Mustan Dyno. Stock C6 on there dynos run 300-305 hp. He claims that this would be 400/367 on a Dynojet. He states he is typically witin 2-4 hp on his comparo.

So....... Not what I hoped but with a Diablo tuner and no headers, i can't complain. The tm was kicking in and getting what appeared to be a lot of false knock.

I will do headers and HP tuners this fall or winter and see what it does then.
Typically headers show 25 hp. Your ported heads and cams output is restricted do to lack of headers. Your numbers show you picked up about 40 hp from the mods. These mods should have given you closer to 60 or 70. Headers will probably add a lot more than 25 hp with your setup. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by Beatitt
Without headers you're kind of putting the cart before the horse. That Mustang Dyno is also reading extremely low, usually they are only 10-20 hp lower, not 50. I made 365 on a Mustang bone stock.
I hear that it really depends on the tuner. The Mustang Dyno can output dynojet type corrected numbers but not always that accurate. Just what I've read, I'm certainly no expert on the matter.
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Originally Posted by LostAngel
Did you just plop the diablotune in and go? Or did you calibrate the tune for your exact car? If you didn't calibrate it...get ahold of 06MonteSS on this forum or the Diablosport forum...he will fix you up with getting rid of that KR and getting more power from the tune.
I had a custom tune wrote by someone at Diablo and then fine tuned on the street by logging and adjusting best I could with the tuner. 06MonteSS helped with tuning on stock car but had to have MikeL help with the mods.
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Originally Posted by Beatitt
Without headers you're kind of putting the cart before the horse. That Mustang Dyno is also reading extremely low, usually they are only 10-20 hp lower, not 50. I made 365 on a Mustang bone stock.
I am not a dyno expert and he stated that he has many customers that do tuning on his load dyno and then go to nearby shop and run on DynoJet for the numbers. He says he has done enough comparisons that the Dynojet runs about 16% higher than his.
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You should try a different dyno to see what you would get.
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Originally Posted by danl72
You should try a different dyno to see what you would get.
I am hoping to hit the DynoJet sometime soon to compare. The reason I chose the shop I did is because he was willing to let me use the Diablo to log and tune between runs. He spent 2.5 hours with me for the cost of 3 dyno pulls (actually made 5-6 pulls). The other shop charges 125/hr if tuning.

I honestly went to dyno to tune WOT fueling with the Diablo. The Dyno #'s were just for fun and to see how I did on budget build. I can see that the heads and cam is too much for a non-header car. I think headers and a full HP tune and I will be in the 430-440 range.
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My Dyno Sheet. I also got a data file with the HP/TQ, Fuel Press./ Speed/ A/F.

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