Ls3 427
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Ls3 427
I may have a chance to pick up a bare LS3 block cheap. I've been considering a stroker for my car and I'm looking for some input. I'm leaning toward a 402 LS2, but a 427 is much more appealing. I know I can get a stroker kit for an LS3 ,4.065" bore with a 4" stroke to make a 418 or 4.065" bore and a 4.100" stroke to make the 427. Although, from what I've read on CF that stroke seems to be less favorable, and I'm not trying to slam anyone with that stroke, I'm sure it works fine. My question is has anyone bore the LS3 to 4.125", the bore of the LS7. That combined with the 4" stroke will give me the 427 I'm looking for. It would require boring the block .060"...is that too much? I've looked for any info on a LS3 427 that this forum has to offer and there doesn't seem to be very much. I appreciate any info I can get.
BTW...I don't have the money for an LS7 swap. I know that'd be the best way to go.
BTW...I don't have the money for an LS7 swap. I know that'd be the best way to go.
Le Mans Master
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I may have a chance to pick up a bare LS3 block cheap. I've been considering a stroker for my car and I'm looking for some input. I'm leaning toward a 402 LS2, but a 427 is much more appealing. I know I can get a stroker kit for an LS3 ,4.065" bore with a 4" stroke to make a 418 or 4.065" bore and a 4.100" stroke to make the 427. Although, from what I've read on CF that stroke seems to be less favorable, and I'm not trying to slam anyone with that stroke, I'm sure it works fine. My question is has anyone bore the LS3 to 4.125", the bore of the LS7. That combined with the 4" stroke will give me the 427 I'm looking for. It would require boring the block .060"...is that too much? I've looked for any info on a LS3 427 that this forum has to offer and there doesn't seem to be very much. I appreciate any info I can get.
BTW...I don't have the money for an LS7 swap. I know that'd be the best way to go.
BTW...I don't have the money for an LS7 swap. I know that'd be the best way to go.
Drifting
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I don't understand aren't they basically the same block? There are ls2 427's all over the place that are resleeved and stronger than an ls7 427
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But I think what '02gt350' was referring to is what it takes to get to 427 when starting with an LS3 (or LS2) block. And as far as sleeving goes I don't anyone here even assumed you were referring to sleeving as a means to get there, just using a new crank (4" stroke) in an otherwise stock LS3 block which is how most now build a 416-418.
Sleeving is whole 'nother approach.
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I don't think that can be done safely, might thin out the cylinder walls/spacing too much.
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A 4.1 stoke (which is too much IMO) will yeild 426. We don't go bigger than 4.0 in our LS3s
Yes, it absolutely is too much
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If you have your heart set on an 427 use the LS7 block, if not you can easily do a 416-420 cu with an LS3 block. I would also stay with a 4 inch stroke no matter which block you end up with.
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Appreciate any feedback.
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Which is why I don't have a 427ci LS3
Le Mans Master
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I think the rod angles generated by the crank needed to bring it to 427 are a little much
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I looked at the different options for stroker LS3 short blocks. I decided to go with a 418 with steel top rings. I use my 08 as a DD and for drag racing. I wanted the option to add power adders (NOS, Turbo, SC, etc.) and the 427 LS3 was not recommended for FI. Texas Speed offers both the 418 LS3 and 427 LS3. The 418 I am having installed is coming from TS. Maybe give them a call as well and discuss your options.
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Doesn't the strength and dependability of the block also depend on how it was resleeved? ....Using dry or wet sleeves.
I've heard they have even bigger than 4.125 bores for the LS2/LS3 blocks and turn out to be much stronger than the LS7 block itself.
Correct me if i'm wrong though.
I've heard they have even bigger than 4.125 bores for the LS2/LS3 blocks and turn out to be much stronger than the LS7 block itself.
Correct me if i'm wrong though.
