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Old Oct 17, 2008 | 06:17 PM
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hey Chuckie, just an update after another few hundred miles on my '07 Z51 A6 coupe, I just love this Corvette and with your new '08 A6 programming.
The CoW '08 A6 program really works the ballz and with the '08 A6 hardware even better. I'm glad we made the swap. I'm surprised no one wants to do an exchange, oh well their loss. My A6 coupe is so quick and pulls so hard thru all the gears, it pulls just as hard on a 2-3 shift or a 3-4 shift as it does on a 1-2 shift (4-5 and 5-6 shifts are great but by then you're at light speed). it's torque in the mid to top end seems endless, it is scary fast, but it's a good scary.
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Just when I was starting to forget my envy of your toys, Joe......you go ahead and remind me how much I want an A6! Glad it's keeping you smiling!
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sorry Craig if the man comes down from the mountain we gotta get together before the snow flies. he hinted.... I'd come down to OBI or you guys come up here to the Garage Majal
BTW how's your ride doing? dynoed yet?
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so how long did it take Chuck to do the 08 change??
I have Chucks tune in my car and would like to know how much better the 08 tune/throttle body works over the 07.
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hey Chuckie, just an update after another few hundred miles on my '07 Z51 A6 coupe, I just love this Corvette and with your new '08 A6 programming.
The CoW '08 A6 program really works the ballz and with the '08 A6 Thanks, Joe

Joe.... I've heard nothing but "GOOD" things about Chuck CoW, but being an "Old Fart" racer from back when cars used carbs, I am sorry but I do not believe in SOP evaluations...

Can you post some ET's your car has run Before & AFTER he made the changes..

What mods have been done to your car, and what kind of ET and MPH is it running... I'm bone stock and ran 12.52 @ 112

I just installed a Vararam, 160 T Stat. & Drag Radials... I'll see what my 05 (A4) runs tomorrow... As I understand it there is a world of difference between the A6 and the A4 Automatic trannie cars... I have the 3.15 rear.. and ran my ET on Run Flats...in 85 Deg. weather, I expect (Hope) to see something better tomorrow...

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Originally Posted by jpee
Joe.... I've heard nothing but "GOOD" things about Chuck CoW, but being an "Old Fart" racer from back when cars used carbs, I am sorry but I do not believe in SOP evaluations...

Can you post some ET's your car has run Before & AFTER he made the changes..

What mods have been done to your car, and what kind of ET and MPH is it running... I'm bone stock and ran 12.52 @ 112

I just installed a Vararam, 160 T Stat. & Drag Radials... I'll see what my 05 (A4) runs tomorrow... As I understand it there is a world of difference between the A6 and the A4 Automatic trannie cars... I have the 3.15 rear.. and ran my ET on Run Flats...in 85 Deg. weather, I expect (Hope) to see something better tomorrow...
How old are you??/
I'm old!!!!!
Chuck did my tune and it was a Very noticiable difference, SOP or not if your butt dyno can not tell the difference you should not be driving,LOL
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Amen! The Chuck Cow tuned A6 is amazing. I meant to start another thread abouot installing it back in the car ( I did the removal thread below) but I was too busy at the time.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...ghlight=tcm+a6


A6 guys who are not daily drivers should jump all over this tune. It's easy to remove, easy to install and easy as hell to enjoy. The SOTP is amazing. The Dr. Jeckel/ Mr Hyde difference between the "D" and "S" mode now is awesome. Just driving in "D" it still rips into gear, nothing like the weak azz stock tune (wont even bark the tires), now you can lay a good 2ft of rubber on the WOT shift.

In "S" mode, it will actually hold to 3K rpm before shifting under light throttle and it gives you plenty of time to decide when to hit it with NO downshift time, amazing. The paddles are nearly instant now and the car is such a beast.

Good work Chuck and as I said before, you guys with A6's are really missing out with the stock tune.
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How old are you??/
I'm old!!!!!
Chuck did my tune and it was a Very noticiable difference, SOP or not if your butt dyno can not tell the difference you should not be driving,LOL

I'm gonna be 66 next month.. And if you look at http://www.corvettechallenge.info/index.php I did not race in points this year, The youn lady who works at Englishtown raced my car "Jeanne Linke" She is in 1st place as of now with 2 races to go... , you will see I've been in the top 6 for the last 8 years in our points race...

I've raced NHRA Comp Eliminator D/A (D/Altered) it was a 290 ci small block in a tube chassis Camaro that ran in the very low 8 sec @ 170 mph zone...it made 721 HP Flywheel not RWHP

You can punch my name in Yahoo "John Panuzzo" and you decide if I have enough "Experience" As an example if a tuner just raised the line pressure in an automatic trans, it probably wont make the car any "FASTER" but it WILL shift harder and SOP "FEEL" faster..

You get my point... if you take the air cleaner, & mufflers off, most people will say WOW that sure "FEELS Faster.. but in reality in might be .010 faster about 10 feet in a 1/4 mile....

I know SOP means a lot but in the real world, if my car felt like a slug, but could beat you.. which car do you want (in a race) maybe your "FEELS" better on the street while driving, but if we were at a traffic light you'd lose (PS I don't street race) but you get my point... REAL #s mean more than SOP IMHO..

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Originally Posted by jpee
I'm gonna be 66 next month.. And if you look at http://www.corvettechallenge.info/index.php I did not race in points this year, The youn lady who works at Englishtown raced my car "Jeanne Linke" She is in 1st place as of now with 2 races to go... , you will see I've been in the top 6 for the last 8 years in our points race...

I've raced NHRA Comp Eliminator D/A (D/Altered) it was a 290 ci small block in a tube chassis Camaro that ran in the very low 8 sec @ 170 mph zone...it made 721 HP Flywheel not RWHP

You can punch my name in Yahoo "John Panuzzo" and you decide if I have enough "Experience" As an example if a tuner just raised the line pressure in an automatic trans, it probably wont make the car any "FASTER" but it WILL shift harder and SOP "FEEL" faster..

You get my point... if you take the air cleaner, & mufflers off, most people will say WOW that sure "FEELS Faster.. but in reality in might be .010 faster about 10 feet in a 1/4 mile....

I know SOP means a lot but in the real world, if my car felt like a slug, but could beat you.. which car do you want (in a race) maybe your "FEELS" better on the street while driving, but if we were at a traffic light you'd lose (PS I don't street race) but you get my point... REAL #s mean more than SOP IMHO..
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Removing TM between shifts on WOT (TCM usually pulls up to 14 degrees on WOT upshifts) will make the car quicker in a straight line and it does make it a blast to drive, specifically from any roll speed now with instant downshifts and insane WOT upshifts and Im sure you ALL know (I hope) better upshifts/rpm will generate a quicker car. My last car was a 10.33@133mph 03 KB Cobra so I am also pretty adapt to noticing changes in power delivery and I can tell you all the car is night and day. Its not as much about picking up trap speed with a trans tune but you would be hard pressed NOT to find an improvement in et, guaranteed. The car was a turd before. If you like it like that, great.

This is a must have mod for an A6. Its going to be a must have for 600rwhp to make it fun.

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Old Oct 18, 2008 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by pmj341
Joe
so how long did it take Chuck to do the 08 change??
I have Chucks tune in my car and would like to know how much better the 08 tune/throttle body works over the 07.
Phil
Sorry for the delay.
Chuck and I changed my '07 trans valve controller to an '08 controller as an experiment. The '08 controller supposedly had some hardware changes probably a minimal change at best. Of course the biggest change was with Chuck CoW's use of some '08 A6 programming along with his excellent tuning prowess.
Chuck may have an exchange Valve Controller for you do it your selfers, maybe 3 hrs. to do it and JayPlaySS2 had an excellent photo how to posted awhile back.

I'm an old road racer (58yo) so I just never got around to 1/4 miling my car but those who have rode in or driven my car (Spin, Chuck, etc.) can testify to it's speed... bottom line I'm completely satisfied with my final product.
Previous to my SpinFast 92, AFR 205s and some retuning I was dynoed (Mustang) at 417 rwhp & about 390 rwtq (95 degree day and about 80 % humidity), so is myLS2 A6 450rwhp now maybe, but she has run a 3.7 sec. 0-60. again bottom line I'm happy.
Hopefully I'll do a 1/4 mile or dyno so we're all happy.

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Originally Posted by jpee
I'm gonna be 66 next month.. And if you look at http://www.corvettechallenge.info/index.php I did not race in points this year, The youn lady who works at Englishtown raced my car "Jeanne Linke" She is in 1st place as of now with 2 races to go... , you will see I've been in the top 6 for the last 8 years in our points race...

I've raced NHRA Comp Eliminator D/A (D/Altered) it was a 290 ci small block in a tube chassis Camaro that ran in the very low 8 sec @ 170 mph zone...it made 721 HP Flywheel not RWHP

You can punch my name in Yahoo "John Panuzzo" and you decide if I have enough "Experience" As an example if a tuner just raised the line pressure in an automatic trans, it probably wont make the car any "FASTER" but it WILL shift harder and SOP "FEEL" faster..

You get my point... if you take the air cleaner, & mufflers off, most people will say WOW that sure "FEELS Faster.. but in reality in might be .010 faster about 10 feet in a 1/4 mile....

I know SOP means a lot but in the real world, if my car felt like a slug, but could beat you.. which car do you want (in a race) maybe your "FEELS" better on the street while driving, but if we were at a traffic light you'd lose (PS I don't street race) but you get my point... REAL #s mean more than SOP IMHO..
I couldnt agree more
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Joe.... I've heard nothing but "GOOD" things about Chuck CoW, but being an "Old Fart" racer from back when cars used carbs, I am sorry but I do not believe in SOP evaluations...

Can you post some ET's your car has run Before & AFTER he made the changes..

What mods have been done to your car, and what kind of ET and MPH is it running... I'm bone stock and ran 12.52 @ 112

I just installed a Vararam, 160 T Stat. & Drag Radials... I'll see what my 05 (A4) runs tomorrow... As I understand it there is a world of difference between the A6 and the A4 Automatic trannie cars... I have the 3.15 rear.. and ran my ET on Run Flats...in 85 Deg. weather, I expect (Hope) to see something better tomorrow...

Just an update on my car... as stated above it ran 12.52 @ 112 mph.. I got the Vararam, & had Cartek do a Dyno Tune... (3 pulls) then drove it on the street, and on the Dyno again) for 1 last pull...

Yesterday I made app 9 runs.. the FASTEST 12.21 @ 114.40 mph

The Slowest (some wheel spin) 12.27 @ 113.20 all the rest were faster than 12.27 and this car is an 05 (A4) with only a Vararam and Cartek Tune.. If any of you have been following some of my posts, you know how Pizzed I was at my car not being Consistent... Well I have NO COMPLAINTS NOW...Cartek got it running like a Xerox Machine !

I know Chuck knows his stuff, & will do right by anyone who uses him, but I've been with Cartek since 1999, & they never steered me wrong....I can't change Horses in midstream

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Originally Posted by jpee
I'm gonna be 66 next month.. And if you look at http://www.corvettechallenge.info/index.php I did not race in points this year, The youn lady who works at Englishtown raced my car "Jeanne Linke" She is in 1st place as of now with 2 races to go... , you will see I've been in the top 6 for the last 8 years in our points race...

I've raced NHRA Comp Eliminator D/A (D/Altered) it was a 290 ci small block in a tube chassis Camaro that ran in the very low 8 sec @ 170 mph zone...it made 721 HP Flywheel not RWHP

You can punch my name in Yahoo "John Panuzzo" and you decide if I have enough "Experience" As an example if a tuner just raised the line pressure in an automatic trans, it probably wont make the car any "FASTER" but it WILL shift harder and SOP "FEEL" faster..

You get my point... if you take the air cleaner, & mufflers off, most people will say WOW that sure "FEELS Faster.. but in reality in might be .010 faster about 10 feet in a 1/4 mile....

I know SOP means a lot but in the real world, if my car felt like a slug, but could beat you.. which car do you want (in a race) maybe your "FEELS" better on the street while driving, but if we were at a traffic light you'd lose (PS I don't street race) but you get my point... REAL #s mean more than SOP IMHO..


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Originally Posted by jpee
I'm gonna be 66 next month.. And if you look at http://www.corvettechallenge.info/index.php I did not race in points this year, The youn lady who works at Englishtown raced my car "Jeanne Linke" She is in 1st place as of now with 2 races to go... , you will see I've been in the top 6 for the last 8 years in our points race...

I've raced NHRA Comp Eliminator D/A (D/Altered) it was a 290 ci small block in a tube chassis Camaro that ran in the very low 8 sec @ 170 mph zone...it made 721 HP Flywheel not RWHP

You can punch my name in Yahoo "John Panuzzo" and you decide if I have enough "Experience" As an example if a tuner just raised the line pressure in an automatic trans, it probably wont make the car any "FASTER" but it WILL shift harder and SOP "FEEL" faster..

You get my point... if you take the air cleaner, & mufflers off, most people will say WOW that sure "FEELS Faster.. but in reality in might be .010 faster about 10 feet in a 1/4 mile....

I know SOP means a lot but in the real world, if my car felt like a slug, but could beat you.. which car do you want (in a race) maybe your "FEELS" better on the street while driving, but if we were at a traffic light you'd lose (PS I don't street race) but you get my point... REAL #s mean more than SOP IMHO..
I know you know that SOP can be very decieving, I know enough about your racing backround to know that you know.
The Chuck Cow trans tune has the capability to change up to 250 parameters, in my car he made 42 diff changes, none to line press!!!
in D the car feels stock in S mode it shifts quicker, not harder!!!! at WOT the car squats-hooks-launches, in paddle mode the shift delay is still there, but still a lot shorter than OEM.
you will have to try it for yourself, I'm sure you will agree that it will lower your ET's.
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I know you know that SOP can be very decieving, I know enough about your racing backround to know that you know.
The Chuck Cow trans tune has the capability to change up to 250 parameters, in my car he made 42 diff changes, none to line press!!!
in D the car feels stock in S mode it shifts quicker, not harder!!!! at WOT the car squats-hooks-launches, in paddle mode the shift delay is still there, but still a lot shorter than OEM.
you will have to try it for yourself, I'm sure you will agree that it will lower your ET's.
Phil

Phil

I'm with you, & know where your coming from, only problem is my car is an 05 with the (A4) trans ...however I know a lot of the guys who have the A6 and will give one of them a test drive, I'm not sure if any have Chuck CoW tune, or the NJ, NY tuners..

I'll be at the track next week... ans try one of the paddle shift car (I've never driven one)

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Phil

I'm with you, & know where your coming from, only problem is my car is an 05 with the (A4) trans ...however I know a lot of the guys who have the A6 and will give one of them a test drive, I'm not sure if any have Chuck CoW tune, or the NJ, NY tuners..

I'll be at the track next week... ans try one of the paddle shift car (I've never driven one)

Tkxx
I do not use the paddle shifter to drag race, I use S mode and let the
trans do it's thing, it actually shifts faster and more consistant.
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Just a little side note and maybe a little not known fact about Chuck's tunes

Chuck's tune before dyno is 2-3 HP more or less, consistent, pull, after pull, after pull and no matter how hard you try, you could not squeeze another pony out of it, to the consternation of the dyno operator witch is amazed time after time on how Chuck can actually be so right on without the dyno

It is really hard to explain what he does and how is different, because it is hard to believe, like JayplaySS2 said, you'll just have to try it.

A4 gets Chuck's attention just as much as an A6 and you'd be surprised of what he can do for it
To give a quote from his sales pitch:
"i will put a tune in your car, you go drive it and if you don't like it i will take it out, put your car back to the way it was and you don't have to pay me for my time, if you like it then i will finish it and you'll pay me".

Now if that is not a great offer i don't know what is.
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Originally Posted by jpee
I'm gonna be 66 next month.. And if you look at http://www.corvettechallenge.info/index.php I did not race in points this year, The youn lady who works at Englishtown raced my car "Jeanne Linke" She is in 1st place as of now with 2 races to go... , you will see I've been in the top 6 for the last 8 years in our points race...

I've raced NHRA Comp Eliminator D/A (D/Altered) it was a 290 ci small block in a tube chassis Camaro that ran in the very low 8 sec @ 170 mph zone...it made 721 HP Flywheel not RWHP

You can punch my name in Yahoo "John Panuzzo" and you decide if I have enough "Experience" As an example if a tuner just raised the line pressure in an automatic trans, it probably wont make the car any "FASTER" but it WILL shift harder and SOP "FEEL" faster..

You get my point... if you take the air cleaner, & mufflers off, most people will say WOW that sure "FEELS Faster.. but in reality in might be .010 faster about 10 feet in a 1/4 mile....

I know SOP means a lot but in the real world, if my car felt like a slug, but could beat you.. which car do you want (in a race) maybe your "FEELS" better on the street while driving, but if we were at a traffic light you'd lose (PS I don't street race) but you get my point... REAL #s mean more than SOP IMHO..
Well said. I am a perfect example. I have owned many corvette's and when you put some nice mufflers or an exhaust system on the car, you instantly get a sensation of the car being faster, when, in reality, it is no faster at all. It is your senses that make it seem faster, a.k.a. a louder exhaust or a firmer shift on the transmission. I am not saying the A6 does not shift BETTER, I am sure it does, but does it make the car faster? Only the track will tell the story.
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