interesting idea....
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Drifting
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interesting idea....
Random thought. Are the computers for the 05 different from the 06+. Something kinda dawned on me about the whole having to put it in reverse thing on the 05. Would you be able to swap the computer out with an 06 to get rid of that feature? i figured it is something that would be built into the pcm itself. Its not that big of a deal because i have gotten used to it, but just a thought
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Drifting
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how is that? different engine. different specs. only major difference is that the 05s didnt have and "LT" series. if that were the case, could you swap a c5 pcm with an 05? sorry, but i really have to challenge your post.
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05 has LS2 with 24 tooth reluctor wheel
06+ has LS2 with 58 tooth reluctor wheel
05 uses E40 ECM
06+ use E38/E67 ECMs
(not really thread related)
05 has a 4 speed automatic, uses the same TCM as a Saturn Ion
06+ has 6 speed automatic, different TCM
.......and no, you can't swap computers between an 04 and an 05. An 04 doesn't even have an ECM, it has a PCM.
Last edited by 'VETTE PHASE; Oct 21, 2008 at 05:39 PM. Reason: changed PCM to TCM
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Drifting
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You are basing your challenge on the fact that the two cars look similar? Classic. You should search and educate yourself on the subject.
05 has LS2 with 24 tooth reluctor wheel
06+ has LS2 with 58 tooth reluctor wheel
05 uses E40 ECM
06+ use E38/E67 ECMs
(not really thread related)
05 has a 4 speed automatic, uses the same TCM as a Saturn Ion
06+ has 6 speed automatic, different PCM
.......and no, you can't swap computers between an 04 and an 05. An 04 doesn't even have an ECM, it has a PCM.
05 has LS2 with 24 tooth reluctor wheel
06+ has LS2 with 58 tooth reluctor wheel
05 uses E40 ECM
06+ use E38/E67 ECMs
(not really thread related)
05 has a 4 speed automatic, uses the same TCM as a Saturn Ion
06+ has 6 speed automatic, different PCM
.......and no, you can't swap computers between an 04 and an 05. An 04 doesn't even have an ECM, it has a PCM.
Pro
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No, I was basing my challenge on the fact that you replied with just words instead of the information you provided in your second reply. Thanks for the info tho. Now, what is the difference between the ECMs? The different reluctor wheels shouldnt make a difference on what type of ecm is used. it would mostly be related to the engine as well as the options within the car, correct? but i do have the 6 speed tranny which is the same in both cars as far as i know.
Don't know much about the ECM, but different ECM will probably bring a miriade of issues as the bus protocol is probably different.
Different communication speeds/protocols will mean swapping out other components that are on the bus => $$$$$$
My 2p,
Cedric
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......and my second reply was just words also.
You asked a simple question, I simply gave an answer.
E40
E38
Yes and no. Yes they are both T56 trannies, but there is a difference between a base suspension T56 and Z51 T56.
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Drifting
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This makes no sense to me. So, you are saying that, because I didn't give you more information than you asked for, that my answer was wrong?
......and my second reply was just words also.
You asked a simple question, I simply gave an answer.
E40
E38
No.
Yes and no. Yes they are both T56 trannies, but there is a difference between a base suspension T56 and Z51 T56.
......and my second reply was just words also.
You asked a simple question, I simply gave an answer.
E40
E38
No.
Yes and no. Yes they are both T56 trannies, but there is a difference between a base suspension T56 and Z51 T56.
different gear ratios. but would the ecu matter as far as the tranny gear ratio is concerned or just the final drive ratio. And no, your second wasnt just words. it also included stats
and specs on the vehicles.
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What would your first plan of attack be?
Just leave the third connector, that has no place to go, hanging somewhere inside the fenderwell and somehow make the other two fit?
or...change the connectors out and rewire half the car?
....just so you don't have to put it in reverse?
The next time something kinda dawns on you....let it go.
Last edited by 'VETTE PHASE; Oct 21, 2008 at 05:38 PM.