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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by dennis50nj
since your great air is coming, im with you 11.43
Thanks Dennis...at least ive got one believer!! hah
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1
That should be about the worst he would run in my opinion. If it's really warm out it could be a high 11.6x but if it's cooler and the track is prepped well he could see an 11.4x
So what? I did say and have similar DA & weather from your 11.79 @ 117.26 time (+500 DA). Meaning I think the FAST will only pick up .10 given the same DA and weather as his last 11.79 time. Keep in mind if he cuts a 11.59 with a -200 DA (versus +500 DA last time), then clearly about .10 was picked by DA. If you want an analysis prediction for differing DA's, I'll try and work up an Excel sheet for you!

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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 01:06 PM
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So what? I did say and have similar DA & weather from your 11.79 @ 117.26 time (+500 DA). Meaning I think the FAST will only pick up .10 given the same DA and weather as his last 11.79 time. Keep in mind if he cuts a 11.59 with a -200 DA (versus +500 DA last time), then clearly about .10 was picked by DA. If you want an analysis prediction for differing DA's, I'll try and work up an Excel sheet for you!
Good point, you did actually preface that.
But, the temps, barometer, humidity, wind conditions, track prep, fuel levels, tire temp/tread depths/rubber compound quality etc etc are NEVER exactly the same from one track visit to the next...never have been, never will be.
So using statements/stipulations such as "all else being equal" or "given similar weather/DA as your previous best" almost don't make sense because bringing all of those critical variables together is an impossible task.
If he runs 3/10ths quicker (or even 1/10th slower) one certainly cannot say that the FAST intake is the sole reason for it.
Then again, one cannot say it was not the sole reason for it either.
We can extrapolate, calculate and recalculate for weather changes, sixty foots and horsepower/torque until we're blue in the face but in the end that time slip is all that matters.
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1
Good point, you did actually preface that. But, the temps, barometer, humidity, wind conditions, track prep, fuel levels, tire temp/tread depths/rubber compound quality etc etc are NEVER exactly the same from one track visit to the next...never have been, never will be.
So using statements/stipulations such as "all else being equal" or "given similar weather/DA as your previous best" almost don't make sense because bringing all of those critical variables together is an impossible task. :
It makes sense to me because I log all those variables and thus it can make sense to all when you are adding new hardware or software so you know what it actually did when you see the time slip. It is really not all that complex in this instance to be closely accurate as to adding a FAST (or headers, cai etc.) running at the same track, how it changed your time.

Professional drag and road racing teams do this all the time, it is SOP. Amazing things can be done with data logging and computers these days! Its up to you to decide how professsional and accurate you want to be

Finally, it is altitude, temp, humidity and barometer that make up the DA number, which is why DA is so commonly used for comparison. I dont know how much data the OP logs, but even if nothing, the DA number for the day he runs is, by far and away, the major outside variable. I hope I am wrong and he picks up .30 (after correcting for changes in DA etc.) with his SpinFast. It would be terrific ET gained for the money!

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Old Dec 25, 2008 | 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by LSCHLEM
The Spinfast manifold will definately add much HP/TQ and you will definately notice it especially if it was retuned. In the case of the op
it seems like you done more steps to DRAG PREP the car with the wide body , Gears Tires.etc than making an effort to gety good dyno numbers. I dont know why you never got LT HEADERS and porting of your OEM Manifold and TB. You are adding a ported fast to a car in hopes of reaching 400 RWHP/TQ. Most cars dont but quite a few have but they all have LT headers. Your 11.70's is great and I would think
11.40's with some seat time. I know your dyno numbers will improve
but it will be interesting to see how you come in w/o LT HEADERS.
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Well, the numbers are in.....402 RWHP and 399.86 RWTQ....if you round the 2nd number up .14 hp then I got the targeted numbers...I would think its close enough...

and all WITHOUT LT headers!!:l ol:

1/4 mile times to come mid january when the track reopens

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Old Dec 25, 2008 | 12:20 AM
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When I get ready I'll be getting touch with you. Got to get through Christmas and I'd rather have you come to Oregon when the weather is better so I can show you around in the vette.
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Sounds good. Is your area known for any special food I have to sample?

I can do a free install and tune for the cost of the travel.
We've got some great restaurants and nothing beats fresh Oregon dungeness crab.
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Old Dec 25, 2008 | 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 06C6FVR
Well, the numbers are in.....402 RWHP and 399.86 RWTQ....if you round the 2nd number up .14 hp then I got the targeted numbers...I would think its close enough...
True, one more pull after a short cool down and the torque would've cracked that 400 mark for sure.






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and all WITHOUT LT headers!!
We've seen what Z06 maniolds and mid sections have done on mostly stock LS2s and now even more results on a slightly more modified (CAI, FAST, tuning) car...but I am curious what a good set of long tubes might gain (if at all) over the Z06 manifold/exhaust set up now.
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Old Dec 25, 2008 | 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1
True, one more pull after a short cool down and the torque would've cracked that 400 mark for sure.






We've seen what Z06 maniolds and mid sections have done on mostly stock LS2s and now even more results on a slightly more modified (CAI, FAST, tuning) car...but I am curious what a good set of long tubes might gain (if at all) over the Z06 manifold/exhaust set up now.
If someone wants to loan me a set of headers, and pay for the install (or install them for free for me), I will be more than happy to be a test mule!!
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Old Dec 25, 2008 | 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by 06C6FVR
and all WITHOUT LT headers!!:l ol: 1/4 mile times to come mid january when the track reopens Daren
I found Headers (with Cats) cut about .25 sec for me (only after tuning for them) though at a higher cost (about $350) than what you paid for the Fast and SpinFast. So it will be interesting to see what the Fast does for "ET value" in a few weeks for you.

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Old Dec 25, 2008 | 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by siffert
I found Headers (with Cats) added about 2.5 sec for me (only after tuning for them) though at a higher cost (about $350) than what you paid for the Fast and SpinFast. So it will be interesting to see what the Fast does for "ET value" in a few weeks for you.
it gained 2.5 seconds or do you mean it lost 2 and a half tenths...i dont see a 2.5 second difference....
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Originally Posted by 06C6FVR
it gained 2.5 seconds or do you mean it lost 2 and a half tenths...i dont see a 2.5 second difference....
My bad, now corrected-.25-too much rum in my egg nog grog!
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Old Dec 25, 2008 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by 06C6FVR
Woohoo...getting the SpinFAST Manifold next week, Any guesses on my new 1/4 mile time? I will be having it retuned with wideband after installing (probably Monday of the following week) Hoping for 405/400. Could get more.(mods in sig)

HRP doesnt open until the 9th of January, so Im hoping I will be there then. Closest Guess gets..........a coookie!!

Daren

P.S. My guess is an 11.43 @ 121
What is the Spinfast manifold and where do yo get them?
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Old Dec 25, 2008 | 12:39 PM
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It is a FAST intake that is ported by Forum member Spinmonster (named GUY)
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Old Dec 25, 2008 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 06C6FVR
It is a FAST intake that is ported by Forum member Spinmonster (named GUY)
Thank you. I assumed thats what it was but we all know about assumptions.. .Merry Christmas
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