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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 11:23 AM
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OK, so my vote is: 3.42 gears. Dont make the 3.15 gear mistake. Talk to the A6 owners that drove both not the 3.15 guys that say its enough and they base the statement only on what they have never having experienced the 3.42's. When I was in a 3.42 geared A6, I thought it was perfect.
As someone who has owned both 3.15 and 3.42 gears and not just driven them, I can assure you they wouldn’t be a “mistake” for most drivers who are looking to upgrade.

While the step up from 2.56 to 3.15 or 3.42 gears is very noticeable, the difference between 3.15 and 3.42 is marginal at best. Both at the track and while driving around town my 3.15’s felt pretty much the same as the 3.42’s and it was only only on the freeway that I ever noticed any difference.

With the 3.42’s it almost feels like the car forgot to shift into 6th gear and as such, your RPMs will be noticeably higher. The upside to this however is that 6th gear is now useable in that I can accelerate and pass people with ease without the need to downshift into 5th or 4th gear.

If you’re looking for some extra “grunt” down low but want to maintain decent freeway characteristics then go with the 3.15’s. If you like having the low end improvement along with the extra bit of responsiveness at higher speeds and don’t mind the increase in RPMs then go with the 3.15’s.
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 12:35 PM
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Im very surprised that more people aren't recommending a torque converter w/gears option. I can't imagine and easier way to lop a half second or more off your 1/4 time. Yea, you may lose a bit of drivability because the converter doesn't lock up as quickly, but i've been amazed at how much you gain with that combo on auto cars.

No one here has a combo like that?? Not that i care...i'm one of those that doesn't mind rowing his own. Bunch of old farts in here.
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 12:57 PM
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Im very surprised that more people aren't recommending a torque converter w/gears option. I can't imagine and easier way to lop a half second or more off your 1/4 time. Yea, you may lose a bit of drivability because the converter doesn't lock up as quickly, but i've been amazed at how much you gain with that combo on auto cars.

No one here has a combo like that?? Not that i care...i'm one of those that doesn't mind rowing his own. Bunch of old farts in here.
I'm already there - 3.42 gears with a 3600 Yank SS3600 converter. The converter definitely helped out my 1/4 mile times but the gears were only good for about a tenth.
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by L.Sanchez
Im very surprised that more people aren't recommending a torque converter w/gears option. I can't imagine and easier way to lop a half second or more off your 1/4 time. Yea, you may lose a bit of drivability because the converter doesn't lock up as quickly, but i've been amazed at how much you gain with that combo on auto cars.

No one here has a combo like that?? Not that i care...i'm one of those that doesn't mind rowing his own. Bunch of old farts in here.
I think many members would have offered up the advice of a converter + gears but the OP said he doesn't want a converter. His two choices are cam or gears so that's what we're working with. I agree though, a converter + gears makes an insanely quick auto.
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by thesubfloor
I'm already there - 3.42 gears with a 3600 Yank SS3600 converter. The converter definitely helped out my 1/4 mile times but the gears were only good for about a tenth.
i thought you ran an 11.52 with just the 3.42 gears instead of the 3.15s with the converter which gave you an 11.47. just curious why you say you only gained about a tenth when you run pretty much the same time as when you had a converter. not tryin to come off as a dick but just wondering if im missing something mainly because i got some 3.42 recently (with no converter) and i am hoping to get more than a tenth in gains.

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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 04:51 PM
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i thought you ran an 11.52 with just the 3.42 gears instead of the 3.15s with the converter which gave you an 11.47. just curious why you say you only gained about a tenth when you run pretty much the same time as when you had a converter. not tryin to come off as a dick but just wondering if im missing something mainly because i got some 3.42 recently (with no converter) and i am hoping to get more than a tenth in gains.

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I apologize for the confusion but when I initially posted my results, I made the mistake of comparing numbers from different nights and different tracks (I race at both Infineon and Sacramento Raceway).

I discovered later that my times from Infineon were (on average) about a tenth slower than Sacramento so when I factored that into the overall equation as well as accounting for the difference in DA, I came up with the tenth of a second improvement.

Still confused? Well that makes two of us as I’ve been on so many different tracks with so many configurations I have trouble keeping track of everything myself.

Hope that helps (or at least lessens the confusion),
Christopher
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by SpinMonster
Any real cam increases the need for gears.

Cars get built from the back to the front.

3.42 gears and a fully built diff sets the stage for real power. You may find that a S/C completes the package for you later rather than a cam.

If I had to do it all over again and the A6 was available in 2005 when I bought my car, I would have gotten an A6 with 3.42's, headers, and a S/C. I'm still thinking thats my next vette. I will get the C7 with that set-up.
A street car with 600rwhp on an A6 is a tough act to beat. I wont miss the clutch issues.

OK, so my vote is: 3.42 gears. Dont make the 3.15 gear mistake. Talk to the A6 owners that drove both not the 3.15 guys that say its enough and they base the statement only on what they have never having experienced the 3.42's. When I was in a 3.42 geared A6, I thought it was perfect.
SpinMonster, I bought my 1st vette last Sep, (55yo but got here as fast as I could). It was a 2001 coupe 350hp A4 bone stock with 3.15s. I'm amateur, but had the feeling that it launched pretty good. Well, now I've gone and bought a new 2008 coupe, 430hp, A6, paddle with 2.56s. My question is, have I moved up the ladder in rwhp? I don't know, it might just be me, but it seems like the C5 came out of the hole quicker. BTW, I'm interested in top speed (190+) and wonder how much 3.42s sacrifice ts at 430hp. TIA
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 05:36 PM
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Thanks for all your feedback. Just spoke with Chuck -COW and scheduled a gear swap (3:42's) and installing my FAST (Spin modded) intake in April.
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hmm...wonder why I never thought of this before...I have an 08 c6 coupe, 6mn, non-z51. What gears do I have stock?

What gears are recommended for this car?
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 06:14 PM
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3.42 stock - 4.10 recommended.
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by StoplightWarrior
hmm...wonder why I never thought of this before...I have an 08 c6 coupe, 6mn, non-z51. What gears do I have stock?

What gears are recommended for this car?
Non Z51 should do well with 410s. I had 390s installed in my Z51 and it's been nothing but FUN FUN FUN since.
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 07:13 PM
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I love my 410s and would never look back. Best mod I have done by far and I was in and out in a day at ECS that installed them for me.

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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 12:05 AM
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Thanks for all your feedback. Just spoke with Chuck -COW and scheduled a gear swap (3:42's) and installing my FAST (Spin modded) intake in April.
Hey man... You made the right choice!

The Chuck CoW 3.42 A6 ATTACK PACKAGE and the A6 ATTACK TUNE!

The ride home will be much shorter than the ride here!

See you in APRIL!
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