Please forgive the stupid question:
I understand everything else but,
How is the breather installed onto the top of the catch can so as to turn it into a breather can?
So,I can buy the catch can & convert it into a breather can, is that right?
again,sftsq.


JR

 

I run a catch can on mine reduced the oil in the intake but not all of it. I had puddle of oil behind the TB and film of oil in the intake before the can, with the catch can it was reduced down to just light film of oil in the intake.

 

The catch can is not 100% ineffective, as previously cited (At least the can I've got). The Elite Engineering catch can has a special stainless steel maze and filtering design built into the top section which traps oil vapor and lets it condense into droplets that collect in the can. Additionally the outlet at the top is designed to prevent sucking any collected oil from the can into the intake. If it was just an empty can, then it probably would be ineffective, especially for high output engines.

My can probably lets some amount of vapor to get through, but it sure isn't 100% ineffective.

 

Looks good to me. Not cheap but Elite's goods are generally well engineered. I got their gas pedal and after a few tweaks to it, works great.



http://eliteengineeringusa.com/C6Catch_Can.html

 

^^I run the same catch can.

 

Catch cans catch 10% of the oil...they are inneffective based on my using lots of them and then removing heads to see the carbon deposits. I have had my heads off 4 times and saw the difference.

Try taking off your throttle body and taking a nice paper towel and just wipe the plenum area of your intake manifold to see if tis effective. If it is then ok, but my feedback from users of your can said it wasnt much better. ZERO oil in the intake is available with a breather can. I like ZERO in there after seeing it on my car.

The difference when I went to a breather can was astounding.

 

Who is the supplier of the breather can you use?

 

I don't want to have to fab something up. I'm not that clever. Is your system plug and play? I did find oil film in my TB and intake when I recently had Spin port them so I would like something better if it's not something to complex I have to mess with. If it is, I will at least put my catch can back on with my modification to make it easier to drain.

 

Wow,
Not even a or
I can take a beatin, but to be completely ignored, ouch.

That's ok,I'll figure it out.

Thanks anyway.

JR

 

http://www.competitionmotorsportsonl...er-Tank/Detail

 

http://www.competitionmotorsportsonl...er-Tank/Detail

or

http://www.jegs.com/p/Moroso/750108/10002/-1

You will have to buy a T-fitting to input a second hose line.....if thats what people think fabrication is I need a drink.

I actually have a second welded input line on the tank.

 

I would give people a day or so to respond especially on a weekend.

 

Got you.


Thanks & I appreciate your patience.(It's a virtue I'm lacking in)

regards,

JR

 

I would assume LS3 have similiar issues. Any 1 care to respond with experience on the LS3's? Ready to buy breather, but would like input on oil/intake first.

 

LS3's are plumbed the same as LS2's, so yes the same problem is there. I have a LS3 so you can reread that I found a slight amount of oil in the intake, even using a can.
Using Spins can, the crankcase vapors are routed to the can, period. There is no way for the oily vapor to enter the intake tract.

With the stock system, you are using manifold vacuum to pull those vapors into the intake manifold. The hose on the accordion coupler is in front of the throttle body and supplies fresh air (make up air) to the crankcase.

Now for the question I have.. Does the fresh air in the crankcase help prevent build up of acidic or corrosion causing vapors in the crankcase? Is this system one reason we can go so long between oil changes, because we are reducing the buildup of moisture and nasty vapors in the crankcase?

 

I would add to the above post that the SpinMonster system essentially destroys the integrity of a PCV system and reverts to the old pre- emission control days when engine crankcase ventillation systems were simply a vent pipe coming from the valley cover to a breather cap which was open to the atmosphere, basically allowing any crankcase vapor/blowby to escape to the atmosphere. Smog control laws since then have outlawed releasing those emissions into the atmosphere, hence the requirement for a Positive Vent Control (PCV) system tied to the intake.

So, if your need is to stay legal, SpinMonster's system wont cut it.

 

True.

Also keep in mind while we are on the subject of 'legal' that all header systems are illegal since the move the cats from the factory location in violation of federal law. Also, the use of any tuning of the rear O2 sensor codes to keep from getting a check engine light also violates emmissions testing as they are listed in the OBDII check status for emissions testing. Most tuners delete this code. 37 states now recongize after market mufflers as an equipment violation and are summonsed by local authorities. Even Z06 mufflers on a non-Z06 are a violation. It has to be the one the car was made with here in Colorado.

Burning oil in the combustion chamber does increase emissions. I never got the point of decreasing crankcase emissions while burning a dirtier combustion mixture as clean but so be it. The better system was actually measuring the emissions from a vehicle but now its all OBDII and thus, any alteration of the original tune is a violation if it changes the number of checked fields.

Case law that helps: In the event a state certified service center says your vehicle passed the emissions test they also certified for use the way the car was set up at the time of testing. So if the test center passed you with moved cats, your car is authorized to use cats in the new location for that year.

 

So are you saying all you are using is the breather in the oil cap?

 

You quoted me and the exact quote is right there on line 2.....a breather can AND and oil cap breather. All you need is the breather can though.

 

Cool, Thanks! I was a little confused by the picture.