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Old May 1, 2009 | 11:52 AM
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Default LS3 Timing chain -CLOSE CALL - heads up

I dropped my car off to have the cam installed and while they were doing the swap they noticed a pin cam out of the tensioner and bent one of the teeth on the gear. I haven't seen it yet myself, but wanted you guys to know because there have been several LS3 threads about timing chain failures... I'm so glad that I decided to do the swap when I did because I was about to have a major failure...

It's an A6..... (most of the other issues I've seen have been on the manual cars).
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How many miles are on the car? Do you have a build date?
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How many miles are on the car? Do you have a build date?
I don't know the build date... Any way to find out by the vin?
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Old May 1, 2009 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by xstang
I don't know the build date... Any way to find out by the vin?
I'm pretty sure you can get the date along with the service history from the vin # I'm pretty sure one of the guys that lost a timing chain the assumption was a pin had started to pull out..

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I'm pretty sure you can get the date along with the service history from the vin # I'm pretty sure one of the guys that lost a timing chain the assumption was a pin had started to pull out..
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Rick, do you have underdrive pullies?
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Originally Posted by nwc6
How many miles are on the car? Do you have a build date?
Build date would not matter. GM has used the same timing chain for years. The part number is the same from '97-'09. Even the ZR1 uses the same one.
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Hmm. So this is was almost an issue on a stock car? No cam or UD pulley? This may be a new clue in the TC epidemic. Please pass along anymore info you may get.

Oh yeah. Glad you caught it in time.
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I do have an UD pulley... Powerbond
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Originally Posted by xstang
I do have an UD pulley... Powerbond
I can't believe that Spin and company continually defend these things. . .
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Originally Posted by RichieRichZ06
Build date would not matter. GM has used the same timing chain for years. The part number is the same from '97-'09. Even the ZR1 uses the same one.
The chain is the same, but the tensioner is a new design... The issue was the pin falling out of the tensioner...
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Originally Posted by xstang
I do have an UD pulley... Powerbond
How long has the UD pulley been on the car?
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As soon as pictures are available please post them.

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I still believe that the underdrive pullies are playing a root cause in these TC failures, due to the harmonics.
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Originally Posted by Bill Curlee
As soon as pictures are available please post them.

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Bill, I'll take my camera up there when I go to pick up the car. Hopefully they set the stuff to the side for me...
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Originally Posted by nwc6
How long has the UD pulley been on the car?
I would say 6-8 months.... Can't remember exactly...
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Originally Posted by UberR32
I can't believe that Spin and company continually defend these things. . .
This is the first incident I've heard of this happening to a non-cammed car. Most people don't go with an UD pulley only. I await further info.
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I can't believe that Spin and company continually defend these things. . .
You know, I have been on these forums for awhile. There is just about nobody who knows all and everything, despite some who may come across as knowing it all.

I have only seen three members, whom I refer to as "The Three Wise Men" who have been near perfect error free when discussing issues or whatever concering the C6. GMAutoTech, ShopDog and Talon90.

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I'm now convinced that an aftermarket pulley swap needs a tensioner swap (to an LS2)... I think it's the combo of the smaller pulley with the new spring LS3 tensioner...

Some people thought it was an ASP issue as well (throw that theory out the window)
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