Define "bolt on's"
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Define "bolt on's"
okay this may seem silly but does "bolt on's" mean different things to different people. when i see a post or a video and it states this is an LS3 with "bolt on's" i always have to wonder what that means. (if they do not specify of course)
my first thoughts go to;
CAI, Exhaust and Tune which a lot of guys also call a stage one package. Then i think of gears. However i guess this would also include an Intake,, Ported Throttle Body, Underdrive Pulley and so on.
does "bolt on's" literally mean any external engine part? can ported heads be bolt on's?
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To me it means anything you don't have to open up the motor to do. So a cam, rockers, pistons, heads would not be bolt ons. Cold air intake, headers, supercharger 
, nitrous (some will debate this one) and maybe even an intake manifold and underdrive pulley count as bolt ons.
, nitrous (some will debate this one) and maybe even an intake manifold and underdrive pulley count as bolt ons.
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Typically mods are split 3 ways.
Boltons (intake, headers, pulleys, gears, converter, etc...)
Internals (heads, cam, rockers, stroked crank, etc...)
Power adders (super/turbocharger and nitrous)
A lot of people also run "Cam Only" which means full boltons and Cam + Necessary internals for that cam (springs, retainers, pushrods, lifters)
Boltons (intake, headers, pulleys, gears, converter, etc...)
Internals (heads, cam, rockers, stroked crank, etc...)
Power adders (super/turbocharger and nitrous)
A lot of people also run "Cam Only" which means full boltons and Cam + Necessary internals for that cam (springs, retainers, pushrods, lifters)
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To me it means anything you don't have to open up the motor to do. So a cam, rockers, pistons, heads would not be bolt ons. Cold air intake, headers, supercharger , nitrous (some will debate this one) and maybe even an intake manifold and underdrive pulley count as bolt ons.
, nitrous (some will debate this one) and maybe even an intake manifold and underdrive pulley count as bolt ons.lol. yes i think it is safe to say you would get some debate on nitrous or supercharger as being bolt on's.. but i would agree with items that do not require the motor to be opened..
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There are some discrepancies over exactly what "bolt-ons" means but most agree on external mods only, excluding FI or N2O. Yes I know you can bolt-on a supercharger, you can bolt-on a N2O bottle, etc. But they are self contained power adders so they do not count as bolt-ons. Basically bolt-ons relates to CAI, intake, TB, pulley, exhaust, t-stat, tune. Then we get into gears and torque converters. These are still considered bolt-ons however the concept has been scrutinized by many. Typically anything that doesn't touch oil or is inside the engine is considered bolt-on. Hence why gears/converters are highly debated. You really don't need to worry about it unless you intend to compete in a certain class, in which case you will have to follow the rules set out by those that have come before us.
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Any (naturally aspirated) part that does not touch engine oil during the course of it's operation/function.
Yes, any naturally aspirated external only part addition period actually.
No for they do touch engine oil.
Yes, any naturally aspirated external only part addition period actually.
No for they do touch engine oil.
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These basic parameters were established LONG before the C6 was even released so it is only fair that the integrity of these "rules" be honored/maintained by C6 owners as well. 
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