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Old May 13, 2009 | 04:13 PM
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Looking for your opinion on a camshaft for my C6 Corvette. I use the car for work (Drive 20 miles daily). Want to give a muscle car sound but want to avoid averheating. Did GM or Com Cams has a mild camshaft for daily use engines?

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There are several good "Executive" or "Stealth" cams available from multiple vendors.

Overheating should not be an issue with any of them.

Key things to look for are modest duration and lift.

If you don't really care about wringing the last possible amount of power out of your engine, you might consider the GM Hot Cam. Many CF members seem to think there are better choices out there, but it's actually a very reasonable choice, widely available, easy on your valvetrain.
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I have LG's "executive" series cam. My car is a Daily driver. I love it.
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Old May 13, 2009 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Mikeg4572
I have LG's "executive" series cam. My car is a Daily driver. I love it.
Do you have a Cam Part Number? What else I need to buy besides the gaskets? Will be a good idea to repalce the lifters and springs or the factory ones are enough?

Thanks both for the advice.

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Feel free to give me a call and I'll be happy to help you put together a cam package for your needs/goals.

This will give you an idea of the other parts you'll need with the cam swap http://hinsonsupercars.com/p-593-cus...-packages.aspx

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Old May 13, 2009 | 06:39 PM
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G6XE or “Executive Cam” is what LG calls it.

Check it out here. I had them do the install for me.

http://www.lgmotorsports.com/catalog...oducts_id=1775
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Old May 13, 2009 | 07:27 PM
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for daily driving, a 224/224 xr or 228/228 xr is decent. good sound, nice power, idle down around 725 rpm. I would do new springs if you go over 580 lift (double springs for sure if you go over 600). Just go with a 114 LSA. 112 and below will be shaking the car at stop lights.

Depending on how old the car is, you might look at new pushrods, as well. It's a hundred bucks or so for a nice set of chromoly rods.

Texas Speed or Hinson can set you up right.

One last thing, if you have an 07, the odds are you have a single hole cam. All aftermarket cams have a three hole pattern for the timing gear. You WILL need a new gear that has a three hole pattern, but the chain is up to you (been some posts lately about chain failure).

Important note: you need to get a timing gear with a 4X reluctor. A single reluctor will run, but cause very hard starts and backfiring. (nothing sucks as bad as having a major babe staring at your car and you're winding out the starter)
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Old May 13, 2009 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Leprkon
for daily driving, a 224/224 xr or 228/228 xr is decent. good sound, nice power, idle down around 725 rpm. I would do new springs if you go over 580 lift (double springs for sure if you go over 600). Just go with a 114 LSA. 112 and below will be shaking the car at stop lights.

Depending on how old the car is, you might look at new pushrods, as well. It's a hundred bucks or so for a nice set of chromoly rods.

Texas Speed or Hinson can set you up right.

One last thing, if you have an 07, the odds are you have a single hole cam. All aftermarket cams have a three hole pattern for the timing gear. You WILL need a new gear that has a three hole pattern, but the chain is up to you (been some posts lately about chain failure).

Important note: you need to get a timing gear with a 4X reluctor. A single reluctor will run, but cause very hard starts and backfiring. (nothing sucks as bad as having a major babe staring at your car and you're winding out the starter)
My vette is a 2006 C6 with 1-3/4" SLP Ceramic Headers, High Flo-CATS and B&B Fusions.

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Originally Posted by Leprkon
for daily driving, a 224/224 xr or 228/228 xr is decent. good sound, nice power, idle down around 725 rpm. I would do new springs if you go over 580 lift (double springs for sure if you go over 600). Just go with a 114 LSA. 112 and below will be shaking the car at stop lights.

Depending on how old the car is, you might look at new pushrods, as well. It's a hundred bucks or so for a nice set of chromoly rods.

Texas Speed or Hinson can set you up right.

One last thing, if you have an 07, the odds are you have a single hole cam. All aftermarket cams have a three hole pattern for the timing gear. You WILL need a new gear that has a three hole pattern, but the chain is up to you (been some posts lately about chain failure).

Important note: you need to get a timing gear with a 4X reluctor. A single reluctor will run, but cause very hard starts and backfiring. (nothing sucks as bad as having a major babe staring at your car and you're winding out the starter)


It almost sounds like your speaking from experience. Like stated stay with a smaller duration with a 114 lsa or higher and it will have a smooth idle but still have some of that muscle car sound.
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My cam has a 113lsa and it's a bit lopey and noisy at idle. Has a nice rumble as well.
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Old May 13, 2009 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by c6 batmobile
It almost sounds like your speaking from experience.
At least I'm not bitter about it. Not one stinking lousy dratted obnoxious doggone little bit.
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Old May 14, 2009 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Leprkon
for daily driving, a 224/224 xr or 228/228 xr is decent. good sound, nice power, idle down around 725 rpm. I would do new springs if you go over 580 lift (double springs for sure if you go over 600). Just go with a 114 LSA. 112 and below will be shaking the car at stop lights.

Depending on how old the car is, you might look at new pushrods, as well. It's a hundred bucks or so for a nice set of chromoly rods.

Texas Speed or Hinson can set you up right.

One last thing, if you have an 07, the odds are you have a single hole cam. All aftermarket cams have a three hole pattern for the timing gear. You WILL need a new gear that has a three hole pattern, but the chain is up to you (been some posts lately about chain failure).


Comp is now grinding single bolt cams. Got one in my '07.

Important note: you need to get a timing gear with a 4X reluctor. A single reluctor will run, but cause very hard starts and backfiring. (nothing sucks as bad as having a major babe staring at your car and you're winding out the starter)

Comp Cams is now grinding single bolt cams. Got one in my '07
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This is what I recommend. This cam will drive very nicely for a daily driver and give you a nice bump in horsepower/torque.

$280 - Patriot 225/229 .580/.590 114LSA
$250 - Patriot Gold .650" Dual Valve Spring Kit
$99.99 - Comp 7.400" Pushrods
$4.99 - GM Crank Bolt
$44.99 - GM LS2 Timing Chain

TOTAL = $700 shipped

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Old May 14, 2009 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Mikeg4572
G6XE or “Executive Cam” is what LG calls it.

Check it out here. I had them do the install for me.

http://www.lgmotorsports.com/catalog...oducts_id=1775
He is right, we have a number of different Executive lines of cams for all of the LS based engines now.

Let me know what I can help you with. We offer cam only, to complete kits with everything needed to do the install. Even come with a cam gear if you need it for your model year.
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ENGLANDGREEN sold me this set.

Price is $1595 shipped to the lower 48 states.

Always remember, you WILL need a computer tune after a cam swap - so factor in some $$$$ for that item.

Our cam package contains the following parts:
1 x EnglandGreen custom grind cam
1 x GM Front Cover Gasket
1 x GM Front Cover seal
2 x GM Waterpump seals
1 x GM Crank Bolt
1 x GM LS2 Timing Chain
1 x GM Oil pump pickup O-Ring
1 x High volume, high flow oil pump
1 x 160 degree thermostat
16 x Patriot Extreme dual valve springs with titanium retainers
16 x 7.400 inch chromemoly hardened pushrods
1 x 25% underdrive crank pulley
1 x New serpentine belt
1 x tube of Red Locktite

Cam has a 114 LSA has a nice and muscle car sound.
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I was actually thinking of going with
The Texas Speed Torquer 2 232/234 .595/.598 Camshaft
"1800-6400 RPM Power Band; This is an excellent performance camshaft with a smooth idle! Custom tuning for automatic cars required

This camshaft typically gains approximately 45-50rwhp!"
http://www.texas-speed.com/shop/item...d=168&catid=44
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Originally Posted by GregC6
I was actually thinking of going with
The Texas Speed Torquer 2 232/234 .595/.598 Camshaft
"1800-6400 RPM Power Band; This is an excellent performance camshaft with a smooth idle! Custom tuning for automatic cars required

This camshaft typically gains approximately 45-50rwhp!"
http://www.texas-speed.com/shop/item...d=168&catid=44
Even with a 114 LSA, this cam has +5 overlap, and is fairly high in duration. Not my idea of an ideal cam for a daily driver.

The 228/232 114 cam that SpinMonster likes has +2 overlap
The Leprkon 228/228 114 cam has 0 overlap
The Hinson 225/229 114 cam has -1 overlap.
The Leprkon 224/224 cam has -4 overlap

In general, the lower the amount of overlap, the smoother the idle. Overlap is when the intake and exhaust valve are open at the same time.

Also, the XE-R lobes on the Hinson cam will also contribute to a smoother idle, due to the fast ramp rates (valves open and close more quickly). This also has the effect of reducing effective overlap. Downside is that you might get a bit more valvetrain noise (sewing machine syndrome).

In my opinion, if you like a little muscle car sound, go with a cam that is not so big in duration, but tighten the LSA (from 114 to 113). This will also help your midrange TQ.
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I was looking at the Vengeance VRX2 224/228 .581/.588 114lsa
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I have a G5X3 112 LSA and if I keep my car versus trading for a Z06 (depends on the deals available), I want to downgrade the cam.

What are some good choices? Daily driver, don't want to blow the motor as I go past 100k miles, still make some good power (doing 425/396 now, would like to have more low-end back, 425/425 would be nice). I have LG LT headers, halltech intake, exhaust, and a tune in addition to the cam. Beyond knocking the cam down a few notches, all I'd really do is put a FAST intake on and maybe a ported TB or something.

I've seen a few interesting cams...

G5X1 - specs unpublished
G6X1 Executive Cam - specs unpublished
VRX4 - 228/230 .588/.592 114LSA
VRX3 - 226/228 .585/.588 114LSA

Any advice? Just want to be able to pass people on the highway without having to shift out of 6th... or to still pull decent around town while staying in 4th. Or get more than 8 MPG around town.The cam I have is awesome and was great for some of the stupid things I used to do and can't be mentioned on the forum, but my priorities are shifting...
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Originally Posted by KMK454
I have a G5X3 112 LSA and if I keep my car versus trading for a Z06 (depends on the deals available), I want to downgrade the cam.

What are some good choices? Daily driver, don't want to blow the motor as I go past 100k miles, still make some good power (doing 425/396 now, would like to have more low-end back, 425/425 would be nice). I have LG LT headers, halltech intake, exhaust, and a tune in addition to the cam. Beyond knocking the cam down a few notches, all I'd really do is put a FAST intake on and maybe a ported TB or something.

I've seen a few interesting cams...

G5X1 - specs unpublished
G6X1 Executive Cam - specs unpublished
VRX4 - 228/230 .588/.592 114LSA
VRX3 - 226/228 .585/.588 114LSA

Any advice? Just want to be able to pass people on the highway without having to shift out of 6th... or to still pull decent around town while staying in 4th. Or get more than 8 MPG around town.The cam I have is awesome and was great for some of the stupid things I used to do and can't be mentioned on the forum, but my priorities are shifting...
First, you shouldn't be hijacking Valentin's thread to discuss your own issues.

Second, it's hard to tell much about your current situation since you don't have any specs on the G5X3 cam, and you haven't said whether you have an LS2 or LS3.

Third, your experience serves as a good example of the hazards of going with too big a cam --- poor gas mileage and low-RPM throttle response, peak HP way higher than peak TQ. I doubt there is much risk of blowing the motor as you get over 100K in mileage, but as the valvesprings wear out, you may not be able to rev the motor up to redline, and thus lose the peak HP.

The FAST intake will help your mid-range a lot. Otherwise, I would take a close look at the cam profiles that have already been discussed in this thread.
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