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GM changes powertrain warranty!!
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Burning Brakes
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The Gospel according to .....? A car magazine? I have no clue who those folks are, maybe I am not in touch with the cutting edge. I do have a '07 coupe, so I guess if that is all true ..... I AM HAPPY!!
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From the link in Post #1:
So GM, is the ECM/PCM included or excluded ? ? ? Class action lawyers, do your thing.
Engine Coverage Includes: All internally lubricated parts, engine oil cooling hoses, lines and radiators. Also included are all actuators and electrical components internal to the engine (i.e.: Active Fuel Management Valve Lifter Oil Manifold, etc.) as well as the Engine/Powertrain Control Module, module programming, cylinder head, block, timing gears, timing chain, timing cover, oil pump/oil pump housing, OHC carriers, valve covers, oil pan, seals, gaskets, manifolds, flywheel, water pump, harmonic balancer, engine mount, starter motor, turbocharger and supercharger. Timing belts are covered until the first scheduled maintenance interval.
Exclusions: Excluded from the powertrain coverage are sensors, wiring, connectors, engine radiator, coolant hoses, fans, coolant and heater core. Coverage on the engine cooling system begins at the inlet to the water pump and ends with the thermostat housing and/or outlet that attaches to the return hose. Also excluded is the entire pressurized fuel system (in-tank fuel pump, pressure lines, fuel rail(s), regulator, injectors and return line) as well as the Engine/Powertrain Control Module and/or module programming.
Exclusions: Excluded from the powertrain coverage are sensors, wiring, connectors, engine radiator, coolant hoses, fans, coolant and heater core. Coverage on the engine cooling system begins at the inlet to the water pump and ends with the thermostat housing and/or outlet that attaches to the return hose. Also excluded is the entire pressurized fuel system (in-tank fuel pump, pressure lines, fuel rail(s), regulator, injectors and return line) as well as the Engine/Powertrain Control Module and/or module programming.
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You got my intrest, tell me more. What type of clutch did you have and what did you take it in for that they voided your waranty?
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I just looked at your post from yesterday. You have a 100-150 shot of NOS, 4.10 gears, Fast 92, most of all the boltons and a aftermarket clutch. Why in the world would GM void your warranty?
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so God only knows what the hell he did to my Trans. That was the 3rd time my car was denied for service. There are others, the rear/trans seal was leaking they fixed that 3 times each time it leaked worse than the last. The last was with 3000 or so miles on the car there was a pin hole in the AC condenser I ate that too. So next time im definately going another route! Warranty What warranty???
Ive bought GM cars for 25 years Never again.
It had a Cartek clutch in it
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^ it's not just GM man...hate to tell you but that's becoming the industry standard too often...like them lying...short story: 911 with aero kit, front lip/spoiler is beat, dealer says its alot of work so they do body work, comes out nice...found out later that you can buy the whole lip for 200 bucks and it's 2 bolts, 6 clips = 5 minute job...go figure right?
I don't agree with the clutch voiding the warranty, they need to prove that in court, that's why there's the Moss law: so you can change parts when they break and can choose not to use a GM part. In your case they would need to prove that the clutch was what broke the syncro... I mean in this case, if you have anything other than an AC delco oil filter, they should void the warranty too right? your case is complete BS but GM gets away with it because
1) they have more money than us
2) better lawyers than us
3) don't have to take LWOP to go fight in court
I don't agree with the clutch voiding the warranty, they need to prove that in court, that's why there's the Moss law: so you can change parts when they break and can choose not to use a GM part. In your case they would need to prove that the clutch was what broke the syncro... I mean in this case, if you have anything other than an AC delco oil filter, they should void the warranty too right? your case is complete BS but GM gets away with it because
1) they have more money than us
2) better lawyers than us
3) don't have to take LWOP to go fight in court
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Some of these guys are a bit sloooow
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Hey Bob, I took it in for a trans issue 1-2 grinding, for the second time. The first time they fixed it no questions asked, broken 1-2 syncro and something else. 1500 miles later it started to do the same thing. This time they called me on the phone and asked if I changed the clutch, I said yes. (the same clutch that was in it the first time they fixed it) that was the end of that Denied. The worst part was after the tech that fixed it the first time, He DIED from an overdose so God only knows what the hell he did to my Trans. That was the 3rd time my car was denied for service. There are others, the rear/trans seal was leaking they fixed that 3 times each time it leaked worse than the last. The last was with 3000 or so miles on the car there was a pin hole in the AC condenser I ate that too. So next time im definately going another route! Warranty What warranty???
Ive bought GM cars for 25 years Never again. It had a Cartek clutch in it
so God only knows what the hell he did to my Trans. That was the 3rd time my car was denied for service. There are others, the rear/trans seal was leaking they fixed that 3 times each time it leaked worse than the last. The last was with 3000 or so miles on the car there was a pin hole in the AC condenser I ate that too. So next time im definately going another route! Warranty What warranty???Ive bought GM cars for 25 years Never again.
It had a Cartek clutch in it
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the funny part is gm put a trans in mine said i had to use the new stock coverter and then the trans over heated they changed everything a new tcm ecm, they tried to say it was my tune but after they put new in and they couldnt get my converter to lockup, they asked if my tuner could put my tune back in or tune the trans for the new converter, so he did and it worked perfect, the manager said they should have Julio make the tunes for gm, as they couldnt get it to work
