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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 01:39 PM
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im not posting warranty info because thatv wasnt the issue at hand. andf no i didnt get a new motor i got a used motor so nothing to really brag about. did i save some cash yea but did i get taken by the dealership. yes! this post isnt about what dealership what warranty company etc its about it does not take 20 hours to swap a set of heads and a cam on a engine stand! thats what this post was about!
Doesn't matter how long it should take. You had a dealership in the middle of nowhere that doesn't do this kind of work often do this work. If it took them 20 hours it took them 20 hours. They have to pay their people for 20 hours. You are pretty dumb for not putting a limit on hours ahead of time.
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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 01:44 PM
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The guys selling the car warranties don't care if it is modded, they still get their money. It only matters when it comes to get the warranty to pay for something, you got lucky.
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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 09:47 PM
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If the warranty company says mods are OK they are fools. I doubt that is the case. If we knew the company we could check it out.
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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 10:48 PM
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They are over charging you. I would speak to someone higher at the dealership. (general manager or owner) Ask them to show you from a published time guide where they got there labor time from.
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Old Oct 3, 2009 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by gitusum
thanx for all the wonderful replies that clearly states that apparently its ok for a dealership to charge way more than time that was or should have been actually used to do the h/c swap.

No, it is not okay for a dealership to do that.

BUT, it is not okay for you not to ask for an estimate of the ADDITIONAL work you requested then complain about the price you were charged.

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It seems that because everyone assumes i got over on gm which i didnt because it had nothing to do with gm other than the labor which i clearly was taken advantage of far as hours used but if this thread wants to continue thinking i have stolen or lied or cheated any company out of anything then this will be my last comment on this matter.
You are so off base. You managed to purchase a damn good Service Contract.

I do not believe that you intentionally or knowingly defrauded anyone and then came on CF to brag about it.

I am sure that you believed that your Extended Service Contract covered performance modifications. Maybe they do,,, Did you read the Exclusion section?


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And just to make it clear the warranty is not a gm warranty nor was anyone trying to steal from any warranty company.
If you haven't noticed this is a forum of corvette owner/enthusiasts. We basically assist each other while have a few laughs, debates and stories along the way.

You seem to have found an Extended Service Company that would be beneficial to most of the members on this forum. $hit, if they will cover heads/cams/ etc... I would like to purchase this contract as I am sure other people would also.

You would be providing a beneficial service to this community as well as generating additional revenue for the E.S.C. co. !!!!

What possible reason would you have to withhold the name of the Extended Service Contract Co ??

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Old Oct 3, 2009 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by gitusum
im not posting warranty info because thatv wasnt the issue at hand.

I understand that was not the point of your post, but why will you not give these people the info they want? I don't see it being a big deal to tell everyone what service contract comany you have. Sounds like it might be a decent company, and I can tell you, many of them are NOT.

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Old Oct 3, 2009 | 01:16 PM
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Just wanted to add a few things here.....

First, I deal with these aftermarket warranty companies on a fairly regular basis. Any claims that they can deny, they usually will. It does seem to vary based on who the inspector is that comes to look at the car, though. I have always had the feeling that they are paid on "reverse commission", meaning the less $$$ they hand out for repairs, the higher their paycheck. I do not like dealing with these people.

Next, modifications to the engine (such as H/C swap) would very likely void any coverage on the engine if the warranty company was aware of this. I'm guessing that the inspector did not know the heads and cam were modified. The dealership likely knew before beginning the repair, but they were probably more concerned about getting the job authorized by the company to make some money. Having the claim denied would do nothing for them, because they would have likely lost the entire job at that point.

In the end, yes, I think the dealership is charging too much for the additional labor. At the same time, it is never smart to authorize repairs without first getting a quote. Either way, I think the glass is still half-full here. How much do you think a complete LS2 pull-out goes for with install and modifications? I'd guess at least $7k. Not as bad when you look at it that way.

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Old Oct 3, 2009 | 01:34 PM
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You should pay them and be happy about it since they didn't void your warranty and say well you had a cam, heads and tune so your **** out of luck like 95% of dealers would have done. 20 hours labor in trade for a free motor that you shouldn't have gotten sounds like a good deal to me.
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Old Oct 3, 2009 | 01:37 PM
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What kind of warranty company replaces the motor with a "used" one. My engine blows I want a new one unless of course I modded it, then it's my nickel.
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Old Oct 3, 2009 | 01:52 PM
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You got a SWEET DEAL ...........just leave it alone and R U N !!!!!!

but you have to tell us the name of the Service Contract you have because thats a gift !
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Old Oct 3, 2009 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Streetk14
Just wanted to add a few things here.....

First, I deal with these aftermarket warranty companies on a fairly regular basis. Any claims that they can deny, they usually will. It does seem to vary based on who the inspector is that comes to look at the car, though. I have always had the feeling that they are paid on "reverse commission", meaning the less $$$ they hand out for repairs, the higher their paycheck. I do not like dealing with these people.

Next, modifications to the engine (such as H/C swap) would very likely void any coverage on the engine if the warranty company was aware of this. I'm guessing that the inspector did not know the heads and cam were modified. The dealership likely knew before beginning the repair, but they were probably more concerned about getting the job authorized by the company to make some money. Having the claim denied would do nothing for them, because they would have likely lost the entire job at that point.

In the end, yes, I think the dealership is charging too much for the additional labor. At the same time, it is never smart to authorize repairs without first getting a quote. Either way, I think the glass is still half-full here. How much do you think a complete LS2 pull-out goes for with install and modifications? I'd guess at least $7k. Not as bad when you look at it that way.

Andy
Altho I see your point, underlined above, I think you missed a key point in the very first post. OP was traveling, 4 states away from home, car dead in the water. Most people won't go and flat bed their car home; they'll get it repaired wherever it breaks down. That's what OP was doing. I doubt seriously that the dealership would've lost the business had it elaborated to the Extended Service rep that there was a heads/cam setup on the car.
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Old Oct 4, 2009 | 02:57 PM
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What kind of warranty company replaces the motor with a "used" one. My engine blows I want a new one unless of course I modded it, then it's my nickel.
Most of them... at best you get a remanufactured engine
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Old Oct 4, 2009 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by gitusum
im not posting warranty info because thatv wasnt the issue at hand. andf no i didnt get a new motor i got a used motor so nothing to really brag about. did i save some cash yea but did i get taken by the dealership. yes! this post isnt about what dealership what warranty company etc its about it does not take 20 hours to swap a set of heads and a cam on a engine stand! thats what this post was about!
it's possible that whatever book time they use for time does not have a time operation for repairs done on the engine stand and it is based on the engine still being in the car. not throwing down on you but did you request an estimate first?
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Old Oct 4, 2009 | 04:10 PM
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I would never let a dealership install a head/cam kit on my C6.
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Old Oct 4, 2009 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by da vette guy
Most of them... at best you get a remanufactured engine
The original GM warranty would provide a new motor, not a remanufactured one, and so would a GMAC one as long as the car isn't modded. I wouldn't buy an aftermarket warranty anyway. Sorry you feel like you got ripped off.
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 01:06 AM
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Well, I think I figured it out. 4 guys working on it for 5 hours = 20 hours.




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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 12:10 AM
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The original GM warranty would provide a new motor, not a remanufactured one, and so would a GMAC one as long as the car isn't modded. I wouldn't buy an aftermarket warranty anyway. Sorry you feel like you got ripped off.
Gm's warranty must be pretty good,Ford gives reman motors even for regular warranty repairs (the only way you get a new engine is because there isn't a reman available yet and they will pull one from the production line ,and you usually have to jump through all kinds of hoops to get approval to order one)
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