which air induction system?
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which air induction system?
I have an 06-c6 / LS2 W/Borla headers / touring cat back exhaust system, and have been told that I can gain some additional punch by simply switching out the OEM air intake....which one is best and how much additional hp can i expect.....do i also need to have the car dyno tuned?
Thnx
Thnx
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Guys...thnx for the heads up.........I Hopped on CF store website and checked out there products...CF Store has a stage I kit which include a hurricane A/I system, 170 deg thermostat & MSD plug wires for $429...claims you get a peak boost of 30 hp...there is also an A/I system by snake charmer VRSC1 claims 32HP boost at 60 mph...These a/i systems are a differernt design...Is there a preference??? does changing out the thermostat to 170 and replacing factory plug wires with msd wires really make a difference in perfomrance??...or should I simply go with the Snake Charmer A/I system?.....has anyone installed either of these systems and what kind of performance results have they seen?
Thnx
Thnx
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I hope this thread doesn't turn into a CAI debate . I would strongly suggest that you get a dyno tune after the CAI instal simply because you also have headers . I am going to stop right here before I say something that might start an uproar . 
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Air boxes dont show any real difference to speak of on a dyno. The real test is the track 
We use and recommend the Vararam systems. 
We use and recommend the Vararam systems.
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If you haven't yet, get it tuned by a reputable corvette tuner. LG Pros, Vararam, and a Synergy tune took my LS2 from an anemic factory 330rwhp to 387rwhp, 399rwtq, FWIW. That's a difference you can feel and others can see. 
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I agree with the above posts, the only thing (IMO) is the 170 T Stat... if you "Don't" plan on taking it to the dragstrip I doubt a 170 T Stat will make that much difference..
I use a 160, but I also have a manual fan switch because when I make a run I want my engine temp to be 170 every time so the car will run the SAME # as I have to dial in my ET before the run..
If you are just building it for a little more performance on the street, I doubt a 170 will do much, but its an inexpensive item so if you want go for it, but if you do... you should have it re tuned to turn on the fans at a lower temp or its a waste of time...
I use a 160, but I also have a manual fan switch because when I make a run I want my engine temp to be 170 every time so the car will run the SAME # as I have to dial in my ET before the run..
If you are just building it for a little more performance on the street, I doubt a 170 will do much, but its an inexpensive item so if you want go for it, but if you do... you should have it re tuned to turn on the fans at a lower temp or its a waste of time...
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The car is primarily a fair weather weekend car only...never sees the strip or bad weather...but when i stomp on it i want the max amount of power available without drastically modifying the car....that being said ..gonna do a bit more research on the cai systems and just pull the trigger..will also do the dyno tune as well...stay tuned...and thnx for all your in put!
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I have an 06-c6 / LS2 W/Borla headers / touring cat back exhaust system, and have been told that I can gain some additional punch by simply switching out the OEM air intake....which one is best and how much additional hp can i expect.....do i also need to have the car dyno tuned?
Thnx
Thnx
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Guys...thnx for the heads up.........I Hopped on CF store website and checked out there products...CF Store has a stage I kit which include a hurricane A/I system, 170 deg thermostat & MSD plug wires for $429...claims you get a peak boost of 30 hp...there is also an A/I system by snake charmer VRSC1 claims 32HP boost at 60 mph...These a/i systems are a differernt design...Is there a preference??? does changing out the thermostat to 170 and replacing factory plug wires with msd wires really make a difference in perfomrance??...or should I simply go with the Snake Charmer A/I system?.....has anyone installed either of these systems and what kind of performance results have they seen?
Thnx
Thnx
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I wouldn't give much credence to the claims of appreciable horsepower gains from CAI and thermostat claims or for plug wires. That said, ALL those things will get you a better performing car i.e. better response. The headers will make a difference in torque results and modest HP gains. The TUNE will make the difference because it can optimize the combination of components. I have seen many instances where an owner makes these mods with the expectation that he/she will have dramatic improvement in HP as read on the Dyno, only to be disappointed with the PAPER results. Do not be disallusioned by extravagant manufacturer claims in this respect. Seek the advice of knowledgeable TUNERS regarding these things beforehand because they have the end results and have experience with different combos based on your configuration, and ultimately have the job of giving you the most efficient use of the finished productivity of your build.
Very well put! A good tuner drives vettes all day long and knows what mods help and which ones don't! But in the end...A good tune will yield the best hp gains possible! I had a vararam and borla and felt no difference. Got it tuned with a 160 stat and WOW! Now there's a big difference!
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The LS2 might could use another intake. I saw a Callaway on a blacked out Z06 this weekend at Eureka Springs, and if I was going to buy....this would be the one. The Vortech is a interesting intake, also. But like some have said....get the 160 and a tune also if you really want to feel something. Most tuners will want a true CAI and a 160.
You don't need plug wires...save your money, and if your set on buying an intake just make sure it's really a cold air system.
Good luck....and watch your money.
Larry
You don't need plug wires...save your money, and if your set on buying an intake just make sure it's really a cold air system.
Good luck....and watch your money.
Larry
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I think ylofevr hit the nail on the head..Gonna make an appt with Vette Dr. here on LI and see what they reccomend..I have also seen some blogs on changing out the MAF sensor...is this also necessary when going with an after market CAI??........Ive seen several Tuners reccomending the calloway system w/ a 170 tstat on thier websites...I have always been an advocate of running the engine cooler for less wear and tear...any additional thoughts on that issue?..Thnx for all you input..stay tuned!
Ps...if these mods are so simple (CAI/HDRS)..why doesnt GM simply incorporate them into their designs??
Ps...if these mods are so simple (CAI/HDRS)..why doesnt GM simply incorporate them into their designs??
