C6 Tech/Performance LS2, LS3, LS7, LS9 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Tech Topics, Basic Tech, Maintenance, How to Remove & Replace
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

HPDE at VIR problem

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 1, 2010 | 09:14 PM
  #1  
JohnAlley's Avatar
JohnAlley
Thread Starter
Pro
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 503
Likes: 6
From: Rochester Indiana
Default HPDE at VIR problem

I was VIR this week for my first HPDE. I have a 2005 with auto. trans, whenever I went around the Oak Tree turn I would loose all drive train for a little ways. Engine was running but the car acted like it was out of gear. After I got the car level it would re-engage and off I would go. Also the trans. "to hot" would come on every now and then. The car has the z51 pkg, so am I low on trans fluid or is something else going on. This problem was not on every lap just when I really went into the corner really hot. Any ideas would help as I plan on doing more of these events but can afford to buy a stick.
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2010 | 10:26 PM
  #2  
ErnieN85's Avatar
ErnieN85
Safety Car
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 3,726
Likes: 368
From: Montoursville Pa
Default

Transmission oil cooler is a real good start!
Reply
Old Jul 2, 2010 | 08:13 AM
  #3  
crainholio's Avatar
crainholio
Pro
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 653
Likes: 0
Default

Was the trans fluid at the full mark before you left the pits?

Back when my car was an A4, I added a stacked-plate aux cooler that was sized for an RV. Also flushed out the trans and refilled with Mobil-1 synthetic fluid.

Even with all that, the fluid was only good for 2-3 HPDE track days before it was in need of changing. The torque converter clutch would shudder when it engaged, change the fluid and it would return to normal.

I switched to a T56 eventually, as will you. Resistance is futile...
Reply
Old Jul 2, 2010 | 11:58 AM
  #4  
Wayne O's Avatar
Wayne O
CF Senior Member
Supporting Lifetime
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 23,313
Likes: 25
From: Tucson Arizona
Default

Just a thought...are you by any chance running with Active Handling and Traction Control on? On the track you should be using Comp Mode (at least until you get proficient enough to run with all nannies off).

I run with sticky tires. If I use comp mode (with its reduced level of AH and no TC) the system engages at virtually every corner and many curves. Sometimes, coming out of a tight corner system intervention seems to 'bog' the car down. It's almost like I have to straighten the car out again before full acceleration resumes.

I'm not sure if your problem is related to the automatic transmission but cooking the fluid isn't good with any gearbox. At the very least I'd change fluid. I use Royal Purple Synchromax in my manual gearbox and it seems to holdup very well (and I run in a hot desert climate). Try to keep an eye on your fluid temps as you run...if something gets too hot start short-shifting and running cool-down laps. Good luck!
Reply
Old Jul 2, 2010 | 08:32 PM
  #5  
JohnAlley's Avatar
JohnAlley
Thread Starter
Pro
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 503
Likes: 6
From: Rochester Indiana
Default

When you say switch to T56 I assume you mean new car??
Reply
Old Jul 2, 2010 | 08:36 PM
  #6  
JohnAlley's Avatar
JohnAlley
Thread Starter
Pro
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 503
Likes: 6
From: Rochester Indiana
Default

Originally Posted by Wayne O
Just a thought...are you by any chance running with Active Handling and Traction Control on? On the track you should be using Comp Mode (at least until you get proficient enough to run with all nannies off).

I run with sticky tires. If I use comp mode (with its reduced level of AH and no TC) the system engages at virtually every corner and many curves. Sometimes, coming out of a tight corner system intervention seems to 'bog' the car down. It's almost like I have to straighten the car out again before full acceleration resumes.

I'm not sure if your problem is related to the automatic transmission but cooking the fluid isn't good with any gearbox. At the very least I'd change fluid. I use Royal Purple Synchromax in my manual gearbox and it seems to holdup very well (and I run in a hot desert climate). Try to keep an eye on your fluid temps as you run...if something gets too hot start short-shifting and running cool-down laps. Good luck!

My in car instructor did not want me to run in comp mode. Car acted like it was out of gear until I completed the turn and was going straight, fairly scary with cars coming around corner at high rate of speed with me coasting to the side.
Reply
Old Jul 3, 2010 | 08:48 PM
  #7  
GeorgeZNJ's Avatar
GeorgeZNJ
Race Director
Supporting Lifetime Gold
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 14,639
Likes: 39
From: Winston-Salem North Carolina
St. Jude Donor '08-'09
Default

I run with with a very capable experienced driver who has an auto. He has lots of cooling for his trans, if your going to start doing this often, start looking into coooling options. Send a pm the Rouge Wave.
Reply
Old Jul 4, 2010 | 12:03 PM
  #8  
AFVETTE's Avatar
AFVETTE
Team Owner
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 1999
Posts: 20,054
Likes: 44
From: Swansea IL
Default

Originally Posted by GeorgeZNJ
I run with with a very capable experienced driver who has an auto. He has lots of cooling for his trans, if your going to start doing this often, start looking into coooling options. Send a pm the Rouge Wave.
the stock A4/A6 isn't up to the task for a hardcore track dog.

Tom
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To HPDE at VIR problem

Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-6

Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

 Joe Kucinski




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:54 PM.

story-0
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-1
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-2
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

Slideshow: Ranking the top 10 Corvette engines by torque output.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:58:09


VIEW MORE
story-4
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

Slideshow: A Corvette pace car nearly matching IndyCar speeds sounds exaggerated, until you look at the numbers.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-04 20:03:36


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

Among a rather large group of them.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:56:44


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

Slideshow: the top 10 things Corvette owners want in the C9 Corvette

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-30 12:41:15


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

Slideshow: 10 Important Corvette 'firsts' that every fan should know.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 17:02:16


VIEW MORE
story-8
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette lineup vs the world.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-24 16:12:42


VIEW MORE