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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 09:03 AM
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With the E3 already out and some installs done on the LS3's looking to
the future for LS2's this supercharger will be out at the end of the Month.
Does anybody know how the E3 will compare against the Pro -Charger, Novi, A&A etc. By comparison they should be quiet much like our ZR1
cars and I like the look knowing there is 638 HP under that hood and I
guess 550 RWHP. The E3 is 599 which should be about 510RWHP. What do you guys think this Supercharger will do compared to others ?
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With the E3 out for awhile, I would like to see some chassis dyno RWHP numbers so we can compare to Edelbrock's Flywheel horsepower. All the other FI units are run on the chassis duno vs the engine duno, so a better comparison would be made.
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You can make close to the same power with a cam for 1/3rd the price and no heat soak.
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You can make close to the same power with a cam for 1/3rd the price and no heat soak.
A "cam only" install that nets 140rwhp?......
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A "cam only" install that nets 140rwhp?......
There are more than a few on this forum with 500+ RWHP with no head work done.
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There are more than a few on this forum with 500+ RWHP with no head work done.
...cam only? or more likely at least a $1,500 set of headers and of course the $500 tune that goes along with it and the change in driveability comes along with a cam that can deliver that kind of power.

...power delivery would be completely different. The claim made above is a stretch
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...cam only? or more likely at least a $1,500 set of headers and of course the $500 tune that goes along with it and the change in driveability comes along with a cam that can deliver that kind of power.

...power delivery would be completely different. The claim made above is a stretch
I think when most people refer to "cam only" they are referring to a full bolt-on car without any head work or forced induction. You would need a tune even without the headers.
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You would be well over 514 rwhp with the E3 system. I got 35rwhp from a full exhaust on a stock engine. I would guess that would be closer to 50rwhp if you added that to the e3 system. You still have drivability with a e3 system and a cam and heads wont give you 560 rwhp and driviablity.
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Originally Posted by dgoldenz
I think when most people refer to "cam only" they are referring to a full bolt-on car without any head work or forced induction. You would need a tune even without the headers.
A full bolt-on car IS NOT 1/3 the price of the Edelbrock supercharger. The "tune" comes in the box with the Edelbrock supercharger.

I will agree that heatsoak is a consideration as well as the 100lbs you add to the car.
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Originally Posted by Pimpedc6
You would be well over 514 rwhp with the E3 system. I got 35rwhp from a full exhaust on a stock engine. I would guess that would be closer to 50rwhp if you added that to the e3 system. You still have drivability with a e3 system and a cam and heads wont give you 560 rwhp and driviablity.
600hp at the flywheel is the Edelbrock claim for the LS3 - the generally accepted 12% drivetrain loss for a MN6 car works out to about 525rwhp....and a ton of torque!
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Originally Posted by Motorhead-47
A full bolt-on car IS NOT 1/3 the price of the Edelbrock supercharger. The "tune" comes in the box with the Edelbrock supercharger.

I will agree that heatsoak is a consideration as well as the 100lbs you add to the car.
I agree, but most people who put a supercharger on the car will also do headers/exhaust anyway, which would put you around $10k all said and done w/ the supercharger.
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Does anyone have the ESC? What would this pull with a cam and meth inj?
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I forgot to mention that I am already at 507 RWHP with compression. H&C.
If I added the Supercharger would that take me to near 700 RWHP ?.
Will the LS2 shortblock hold up. It still seems like a good idea but boost
usually does not like compression.
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What cam did you put in?
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We just dyno'd a ZR1 and it made 538rwhp on our dyno. The 599 E-Force LS3 kit we sold and installed on stock pulley and stock exahust dyno'd at 513rwhp. Not too bad considering.

On the LS3 Camaro's we have seen close to or just over 600rwhp with just LT's and a 1 step smaller pulley change on stock internals haulin' around a lot more weight.

And all this fits under the stock hood and has a supplimental warranty. That's why we are stocking and moving these E-Force kits!

PM me for any tech questions or pricing......
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Interested with the question LSCHEM posed . . . with water and meth at 10:75 to 1 compression will the Edelbrock S/C provide a power increase of 175+ safely and w/driveability? BTW, I have a 231/239 cam on my 404 LS2 stroker w/ LS3 heads. Currently, running 503/489 RW. If anyone has a close match with the Edelbrock, pls speak up. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by LSCHLEM
I forgot to mention that I am already at 507 RWHP with compression. H&C.
If I added the Supercharger would that take me to near 700 RWHP ?.
Will the LS2 shortblock hold up. It still seems like a good idea but boost
usually does not like compression.
Boost and compression do go great together, but you need to add octane to the equation. You would probably be better off going with a proven package, e.g., a blower cam, lower compression, meth injection and a centri.
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