Plug Wires
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Racer
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Plug Wires
Are aftermarket wires better than the factory wires for a bolt on or H/C car? Let's say MSD for instance. Did a search, didn't find much.
Any opinions?
Thanks
Any opinions?
Thanks
Last edited by jsilvz; Aug 1, 2010 at 10:48 PM.
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the core wire on some is bigger allowing full voltage, of course there is a limit, its like a 10 gauge speaker wire versus a 1 gauge speakere wire. it can only allow full power so whats the point of the bigger wire? the factory wires are known for a great core and good rubber resistance parts to help keep the voltage going from the coil to the plug and also not letter RF leak out and static your radio and other components. For me if the msd is similiar in price the ngo for it, if they are double then i dont see the point. Check the core wire grade against the stock ones.
but some guys sware but certain parts,,,im sure ther is someone who claimes he picked up 2 seconds in the 1/4 just switching to msd wires
but some guys sware but certain parts,,,im sure ther is someone who claimes he picked up 2 seconds in the 1/4 just switching to msd wires
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I just put on MSD's yesterday. My Z-06 seems to idle nicer and run better over-all. Big Change NO. Noticible yes. Much better wire than the stock wire. No contest. Stock wire is smallish at 7mm. Can't be too good.
For 66.00 dollars from Auto Zone. I'd do it for sure. Those that haven't shouldn't comment. Make sure to use the die-electric
grease on the plugs and reuse the factory heat shields.
For 66.00 dollars from Auto Zone. I'd do it for sure. Those that haven't shouldn't comment. Make sure to use the die-electric
grease on the plugs and reuse the factory heat shields.
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There really shouldn't be a performance difference if the factory wire is not compromised at all... BUT
The MSD has better features to it than the factory wire and make it a better choice if your adding headers.
hi heat resistance silicone
multi-angle spark plug boot
lowest amount of resistance
MSD's 8.5mm Super Conductor wire sets have a special helically wound core that has just 40-50 ohms of resistance per foot--but with an RFI suppression equal to a 1,500 ohm wire. In fact, each foot of finished wire features 40 feet of tightly wound copper for superior conductivity. A tough 8.5mm synthetic/silicone jacket over an extra-heavy glass braid and dielectric insulator keeps the current guided to the plugs. Underneath the high-temperature boots, dual crimp stainless steel terminals feature snap-locks to ensure a secure fit.
In addition I offer them for the best price you will find anywhere as well as packaging them with spark plugs for the best price as well.
The MSD has better features to it than the factory wire and make it a better choice if your adding headers.
hi heat resistance silicone
multi-angle spark plug boot
lowest amount of resistance
MSD's 8.5mm Super Conductor wire sets have a special helically wound core that has just 40-50 ohms of resistance per foot--but with an RFI suppression equal to a 1,500 ohm wire. In fact, each foot of finished wire features 40 feet of tightly wound copper for superior conductivity. A tough 8.5mm synthetic/silicone jacket over an extra-heavy glass braid and dielectric insulator keeps the current guided to the plugs. Underneath the high-temperature boots, dual crimp stainless steel terminals feature snap-locks to ensure a secure fit.
In addition I offer them for the best price you will find anywhere as well as packaging them with spark plugs for the best price as well.
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I just put on MSD's yesterday. My Z-06 seems to idle nicer and run better over-all. Big Change NO. Noticible yes. Much better wire than the stock wire. No contest. Stock wire is smallish at 7mm. Can't be too good.
For 66.00 dollars from Auto Zone. I'd do it for sure. Those that haven't shouldn't comment. Make sure to use the die-electric
grease on the plugs and reuse the factory heat shields.
For 66.00 dollars from Auto Zone. I'd do it for sure. Those that haven't shouldn't comment. Make sure to use the die-electric
grease on the plugs and reuse the factory heat shields.
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There really shouldn't be a performance difference if the factory wire is not compromised at all... BUT
The MSD has better features to it than the factory wire and make it a better choice if your adding headers.
hi heat resistance silicone
multi-angle spark plug boot
lowest amount of resistance
MSD's 8.5mm Super Conductor wire sets have a special helically wound core that has just 40-50 ohms of resistance per foot--but with an RFI suppression equal to a 1,500 ohm wire. In fact, each foot of finished wire features 40 feet of tightly wound copper for superior conductivity. A tough 8.5mm synthetic/silicone jacket over an extra-heavy glass braid and dielectric insulator keeps the current guided to the plugs. Underneath the high-temperature boots, dual crimp stainless steel terminals feature snap-locks to ensure a secure fit.
In addition I offer them for the best price you will find anywhere as well as packaging them with spark plugs for the best price as well.
The MSD has better features to it than the factory wire and make it a better choice if your adding headers.
hi heat resistance silicone
multi-angle spark plug boot
lowest amount of resistance
MSD's 8.5mm Super Conductor wire sets have a special helically wound core that has just 40-50 ohms of resistance per foot--but with an RFI suppression equal to a 1,500 ohm wire. In fact, each foot of finished wire features 40 feet of tightly wound copper for superior conductivity. A tough 8.5mm synthetic/silicone jacket over an extra-heavy glass braid and dielectric insulator keeps the current guided to the plugs. Underneath the high-temperature boots, dual crimp stainless steel terminals feature snap-locks to ensure a secure fit.
In addition I offer them for the best price you will find anywhere as well as packaging them with spark plugs for the best price as well.
One of my coil boots was slipping and arcing some, replaced with this kit and I'm very happy with the results. 8 good wires > 7.5
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St. Jude Donor '10-'11-'12
We offer single replacement wires as well as a 4 pack.
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Many aftermarket wires are not worth any extra power, but can sometimes be found for cheaper then the stockers. There is likely no power to be gained with them so don't believe everything you read on the internet. I will say that it is a well known fact that MSD coils are absolute junk and I would never recommend running them.
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I thought some people were complaining about fitment problems with MSD wires, so I just went ahead and purchased Callaway plug wires. They are a bit more pricy, but fitment is perfect; they work as intended; high quality construction; and look good.
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St. Jude Donor '10-'11-'12
Many aftermarket wires are not worth any extra power, but can sometimes be found for cheaper then the stockers. There is likely no power to be gained with them so don't believe everything you read on the internet. I will say that it is a well known fact that MSD coils are absolute junk and I would never recommend running them.
BUT MSD 8.5mm Superconductor wires are a premium wire and are actually better than most and is one of the best wires on the market.
I'm not sure where anyone has said you gain performance by swapping wires..
I certainly haven't. This is what I have said though:There really shouldn't be a performance difference if the factory wire is not compromised at all... BUT
The MSD has better features to it than the factory wire and make it a better choice if your adding headers.
hi heat resistance silicone
multi-angle spark plug boot
lowest amount of resistance
with a quote form MSD's website
MSD's 8.5mm Super Conductor wire sets have a special helically wound core that has just 40-50 ohms of resistance per foot--but with an RFI suppression equal to a 1,500 ohm wire. In fact, each foot of finished wire features 40 feet of tightly wound copper for superior conductivity. A tough 8.5mm synthetic/silicone jacket over an extra-heavy glass braid and dielectric insulator keeps the current guided to the plugs. Underneath the high-temperature boots, dual crimp stainless steel terminals feature snap-locks to ensure a secure fit.
In addition I offer them for the best price you will find anywhere as well as packaging them with spark plugs for the best price too.
I thought some people were complaining about fitment problems with MSD wires, so I just went ahead and purchased Callaway plug wires. They are a bit more pricey, but fitment is perfect; they work as intended; high quality construction; and look good.
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St. Jude Donor '10-'11-'12
I've got some photos to illustrate what I am saying I'll dig them up and post them for people
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I agree. Plus the spark plug boot is sealed to the wire. Note: Harbor Freight has a flexable SP wire puller on sale for $1.99 that makes removal much easier without damage.
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I'll be honest with you. Taylor wires are why I got into business in the first place and make MSD. They break and pull apart due to the single crimp system, they are a horrible wire to be honest with you. More people have trouble with Taylor wires breaking than any other brand.
I've got some photos to illustrate what I am saying I'll dig them up and post them for people
I've got some photos to illustrate what I am saying I'll dig them up and post them for people
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Not sure what you mean by coupon code ? We offer the best deal on the planet already
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Here you can see one of the 3 the Taylors that broke on my car first time I swapped plugs.
Notice the huge difference in the heads that attached to the spark plug. Single crimp vs double crimp... not even a question here of what is better, the picture does tell the story.
Then look at the coil end. MSD on left Taylor on right. the MSD has longer crimping ears than the Taylor.
This was a Taylor Thundervolt 10.4mm wire. More expensive and absolute junk IMHO.
If you want a good wire, best for your money then come see me and I'll build you a set guaranteed for life vs defects. You pull one of my wires apart or break it like that and I'll send you a free one for as long as you own the car... and yes I'll even honor a transfer if you sell the car
Yes shipping is free the the US and its territories
Here you can see one of the 3 the Taylors that broke on my car first time I swapped plugs.
Notice the huge difference in the heads that attached to the spark plug. Single crimp vs double crimp... not even a question here of what is better, the picture does tell the story.
Then look at the coil end. MSD on left Taylor on right. the MSD has longer crimping ears than the Taylor.
This was a Taylor Thundervolt 10.4mm wire. More expensive and absolute junk IMHO.
If you want a good wire, best for your money then come see me and I'll build you a set guaranteed for life vs defects. You pull one of my wires apart or break it like that and I'll send you a free one for as long as you own the car... and yes I'll even honor a transfer if you sell the car
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