Or an 800rwhp vette on runflats.

 

Sure now its ok to own a mustang but you called me a few choice names when I did.

 

Oh my god man, you don't know much about drag racing I guess. First of all, the 5.0 is a great new platform, but stock it runs ~12.8 at 109-112ish. The LS3 C6 runs 11.8-12.3/4 at 115-119mph depending on where you are, it has a solid 4-5mph trap advantage, easily outpacing the 5.0.

That 5.0 from your example had aftermarket lighter wheels(removing rotational weight has a greater effect than just dropping weight off the front/back of the car). Not to mention the 4.30 gear and offroad exhaust setup, with the swaybar removed.

A c6 with aftermarket wheels (18" in the back for a slick) with slicks, a high gear, offroad xpipe/catback/ tune, and some suspension work would run bottom 11's at 122-124.


Regardless, the 5.0 is impressive and I think it looks good too.

 

Apparently you don't know racing very well and what mods are effective. The mods that 5.0 has are miniminal based on what works for our C6s. Maybe Ford left a lot on the table for a tune but I doubt it. A gear in most cases is normally a .3-.4 mod. In the case of this automatic 5.0 maybe not so based on his 60' time. The new 5.0 comes with a 4.17 first gear and a 3.15 differential. That 4.30 is most likely an over kill for a stock engine. A catback and no cats does very little on a stock C6 so why would we expect it to be effective on a 5.0. Don't remember reading anything about his wheels being lighter. Sure the C6 has more potential but from an almost stock 5.0 it's doing pretty good vs. a stock C6. And we are talking staight line. Of course it won't do the twisties like a vette but it depends on what you want out of a car. I could care less how fast my car will go around in a circle. I don't do the twisties. Straight line that the new 5.0 isn't that far behind a C6. If you look at the Mustang forums a few have gone mid 12s in the summer heat. Sure some have gone 12.8s with the new first time out driver. Look at those 13s from C6s. I think mid 12s will be the normal with a good driver. And that's the normal for stock C6 times. My stock 08 went a 12.55 in summer heat.

The 5.0 is a nice car. My 06 GT was a nice car. For the money if that's what you can afford it's a good buy.

 

destroyed one on the highway last Saturday, still had dealertags on it. Pulled over and talked to the guy, he was upset he lost 2-3x's and very nice to talk to "black with red racing stripes", said he was killing everything on the road.. mine is a sc'd vette though.. I must say the interior was far suprior to the vette's, which shocked the hell out of me because I always hated mustang interior.. pretty slick rides, sound like bad ****'s out of the box too!

 

Neither do you. You're comparing a tune/gear/susp/tires car to a box stock car...where the stock car STILL traps several mph higher!

Stock for stock, there IS no comparison there.


HUH??? That makes no sense at all. POWER TO WEIGHT. It's also the "excessive power" that allows the GT500 to ET and trap about the same as the LS3 'Vette! The GT500 has the same power to weight as the lighter, less powerfull LS3 'Vette. Hence, the same traps. The car in the post #12 Also ET'ed about the same. My point about the traps is that traps don't lie, and for the people who were going to claim that "Well the Mustang had more in it" -based on it's ET, that excuse is mitigated by the trap. The results of that vid show that there IS "some left in it" for the 'Stang, ET wise...but not enough to clearly and consistantly beat an LS3 'Vette. The GT500 and the LS3 both trap ~118. That makes it a race, and a good one at that.

 

Did you not read what I typed? Go back and read again.

 

I did. you typed that none of the mods on the 'Stang did or amount to much. You also made excuses about the DA etc.

Fact is, the mods DO amount to something, and your still trying to use an "optimized" stock car to a stock, stock car...which is dumb. The LS3 will hand it to the 5.0, stock for stock, every time (equal drivers). Arguing that and using a modded car for your ammo is dumb.

 

Ok Tom, go back to school, take cars 101 and then start over!

 

Good one. What are we, in 4th grade here? I'm confident in my "car knowledge". Certainly so, when compared to what you're displaying here.

 

This argument is almost pointless. How many new 5.0 GTs are running around in the street with slicks/skinnies with suspension set up purely for the 1320. Go visit svtperformance and see what the AVERAGE guy is running with a tune and exhaust. Average on street tires is a 12.8. This is the car that you need to compare the LS3 to .

 

And that was my point. I was waiting for someone to back that up w/some real world stock 5.0 data. 12.8. Lol. I ran THAT (12.86) w/my box-stock LS2....on a 7500' DA.

 

Tom remember modded LS2's are faster

 

Freakin A'! If you polish a turd its still a turd. Not to mention my buddy has a 2008 GT500 with a whipple and I ate him from the stop light until about 90-100. And I looked way better doing it!

 

Leap frogging happens.

On a side note, I saw a CG GS vert with red hash marks today and it looked sweet. Also 2 tone interior mostly black with red accents. Very nice. And a red Callaway also. Drool

 

I traded my GT500 in on my GS. The GS feels A LOT quicker than the GT500 did out of the box. I did do A LOT of mods to the GT500 (Kenne Bell stage 3 704rwhp w/supporting mods) so the GS feels "slow" to me as of now....Monday I pick up my GS from my tuner after I installed a custom comp cam, catted headers, Halltech KB w/hive and Corsa Sport. So I am expecting some drastic results and the GS should "feel" a little closer to my late GT500. Both cars are Bad A$$! I am a fan of both. My tuner actually ordered 2 '11 GT's for himself (the new 5.0 motor has HUGE potential)...they are nice and believe me they are sleepers also. There will always be a faster car than mine...I just want to have fun with what I have.

 

It may feel "a little closer" but 450 rwhp won't be any where near the feel you had before.

 

lol...lol..

 

I totally agree. 704rwhp was INSANE!...The power to weight ratio favors the GS...so every additional hp will be felt in the SOTP dyno much quicker than a 4k pound GT500. Adding 80 hp to 3300 lbs is like adding 130ish hp to 4000 lbs...It takes a lot more power to move a heavier car than it would to get the same "feel" of a much lighter car...if that makes any sense.

Scott

 

Oh I completely understand the HP to weight ratio but you better plan on throwing a blower on that GS to get to the place you were before!