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Old Nov 21, 2010 | 02:09 PM
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Well the crankshaft in my ls2 is trashed so I am just going to buy a crate motor, I was just looking for things that I might run into if went with the ls3 as far as if I would need a new wiring harness and any trouble I might run into or if I could just buy one and drop it in.

My car is a 2005..

I would be EXTREMELY greatful for any help as I am doing the install myself..

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Originally Posted by SpecialSause
Well the crankshaft in my ls2 is trashed so I am just going to buy a crate motor, I was just looking for things that I might run into if went with the ls3 as far as if I would need a new wiring harness and any trouble I might run into or if I could just buy one and drop it in.

My car is a 2005..

I would be EXTREMELY greatful for any help as I am doing the install myself..

thanks.
Check on your vin # if yours is an early model,it's a 24x reluctor crank,if it's the later model,it's 58x. i think the black crank sensor is the 24x,and the grey sensor is 58x.thats the only difference,and the computer. you can also get the conversion box from Lingenfelter for like $250.
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Check on your vin # if yours is an early model,it's a 24x reluctor crank,if it's the later model,it's 58x. i think the black crank sensor is the 24x,and the grey sensor is 58x.thats the only difference,and the computer. you can also get the conversion box from Lingenfelter for like $250.
Is that the only difference or will I need to change other things too?
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Old Nov 21, 2010 | 03:16 PM
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Is that the only difference or will I need to change other things too?
The ls3 has an Ls7 maf,the card style. you can change the tune in your computer to except that. if you choose too.you can always just run your stock maf. all the other sensors and plugs are the same. just the crank sensor being 58x. and the ls3 computer,which is a ls7 comp. and the maf sensor. your throttle body will go right on an ls3,along with the maf,so you could run your harness,an comp. an if need be,use the conversion box. find out what crank you have.and start there.when ordering an engine,you need to know what cam gear you need. if your 24x,you need the 2x gear.if 58x,you need the 4x gear. these are sensors tabs are on the cam gear.
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There are some pin out differences with the wiring harness and the underhood fuse block and if I remember correctly the gas pedal has a different resistance.
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Ever consider a LS2 stroker package? Since its only the crank that is damaged you still have options for your current block.
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Ever consider a LS2 stroker package? Since its only the crank that is damaged you still have options for your current block.
I am removing the ls2 to build it but I am still going to purchase another engine..
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Originally Posted by Nasty C6
Check on your vin # if yours is an early model,it's a 24x reluctor crank,if it's the later model,it's 58x. i think the black crank sensor is the 24x,and the grey sensor is 58x.thats the only difference,and the computer. you can also get the conversion box from Lingenfelter for like $250.
What in the VIN says the reluctor wheel you have? Mine is a very late 2005 and had the 24x.
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if I'm not mistaken all 2005 have the 24x reluctor wheel they didn't start the 58x till 06. but that is what I thought could be wrong though lol.
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Originally Posted by SpinMonster
What in the VIN says the reluctor wheel you have? Mine is a very late 2005 and had the 24x.
I'm not sure either,i was told some late 05's were like 06's models. i always go off the color of the crank sensor.
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Originally Posted by RLSebring
There are some pin out differences with the wiring harness and the underhood fuse block and if I remember correctly the gas pedal has a different resistance.
I'm sure your correct since the reluctors and maf are different .
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Originally Posted by SpecialSause
I am removing the ls2 to build it but I am still going to purchase another engine..
Like he said,do the forged shortblock.put some ss valves in your heads.or get the Patriot heads and sell yours for $500. your shortblock is still worth maybe $600-700.if it didnt spin a main bearing.
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Not to change the subject, but what happened to the crank? I haven't heard of anyone having any problems with them...
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Originally Posted by Isaiah48
Not to change the subject, but what happened to the crank? I haven't heard of anyone having any problems with them...
I'm not sure if anyone here has read the thread that somebody posted about on the 05's the harmonic balancer pulley bolt coming loose, well that happen to me. Unfortunately I caught it to late and all of the threads in the crank came out with the bolt so I have no way to bolt the main drive pulley on.
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Originally Posted by SpecialSause
I'm not sure if anyone here has read the thread that somebody posted about on the 05's the harmonic balancer pulley bolt coming loose, well that happen to me. Unfortunately I caught it to late and all of the threads in the crank came out with the bolt so I have no way to bolt the main drive pulley on.
Go to a bolt supply company,you may have to order it,but im sure they can get it. a Heli-coil kit. the cranks not forged so you should be able to drill n tap it in the car,just lower your cradle,pull the radiator too.
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Originally Posted by Nasty C6
Go to a bolt supply company,you may have to order it,but im sure they can get it. a Heli-coil kit. the cranks not forged so you should be able to drill n tap it in the car,just lower your cradle,pull the radiator too.

Thanks but I'm not to sure how well that would hold up..
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I did this on my '06 and did a writeup on it afterwards. Only thing I ran into was the oil pressure sending unit connector and MAP connector were different, I swapped the oil pressure sending unit from the old motor (do this BEFORE you put the motor in) and bought a new style MAF connector. If you have an auto trans the idle speed of the LS3 is higher and the converter may be locking up slightly while stopped in gear. The '08-11 converter in the L680E is different from the '06-'07 and yours being an '05 LS2 might have the same issue.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...-underway.html

Lots of good input from other members regarding the '05 and reluctor wheel issue in the thread.

After reading the thread again I did have an issue with the water pump being different, had to replace the upper hose with the new style.

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Originally Posted by SpecialSause
I am removing the ls2 to build it but I am still going to purchase another engine..
If you're planning to buy another engine plus do a build on your LS2, you might consider just buying a LSx454 crate engine and sell your LS2. $9,300 buys you around 520 horsepower with a GM 24 month/50,000 mile warranty.
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