PITA Brake Lines... Help Needed
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PITA Brake Lines... Help Needed
I hoped I might get lucky in my swap over to stainless lines, but I've got the dreaded stripped fittings on the hard lines on the first two wheels I've tried.
I have the correct die (10mm x1), but I can't see how I'm going to get it in there with the t-handle... not enough room to turn it.
I've never cut and flanged a line before, so I'm not sure that will be any easier. I'd roto-zip the end off, and I'd need to get the tool. I'm not even sure what the tool looks like. Can I get it back in there better than the die tool?
Any help from the veterans on which way to go??
I've got these new DRM brake lines and powdercoated calipers just itching to get hooked up
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I have the correct die (10mm x1), but I can't see how I'm going to get it in there with the t-handle... not enough room to turn it.
I've never cut and flanged a line before, so I'm not sure that will be any easier. I'd roto-zip the end off, and I'd need to get the tool. I'm not even sure what the tool looks like. Can I get it back in there better than the die tool?
Any help from the veterans on which way to go??
I've got these new DRM brake lines and powdercoated calipers just itching to get hooked up
.
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I hoped I might get lucky in my swap over to stainless lines, but I've got the dreaded stripped fittings on the hard lines on the first two wheels I've tried.
I have the correct die (10mm x1), but I can't see how I'm going to get it in there with the t-handle... not enough room to turn it.
I've never cut and flanged a line before, so I'm not sure that will be any easier. I'd roto-zip the end off, and I'd need to get the tool. I'm not even sure what the tool looks like. Can I get it back in there better than the die tool?
Any help from the veterans on which way to go??
I've got these new DRM brake lines and powdercoated calipers just itching to get hooked up.
I have the correct die (10mm x1), but I can't see how I'm going to get it in there with the t-handle... not enough room to turn it.
I've never cut and flanged a line before, so I'm not sure that will be any easier. I'd roto-zip the end off, and I'd need to get the tool. I'm not even sure what the tool looks like. Can I get it back in there better than the die tool?
Any help from the veterans on which way to go??
I've got these new DRM brake lines and powdercoated calipers just itching to get hooked up
.
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Thanks for the quick reply, TJWONG!
What am I missing, though... the die is round. How is a socket gonna hold it? Biggest I have is 24mm and then I jump up to 27mm. Looks like 25-26mm might fit, but I still don't see how it's gonna hold it and keep it from turning??
What am I missing, though... the die is round. How is a socket gonna hold it? Biggest I have is 24mm and then I jump up to 27mm. Looks like 25-26mm might fit, but I still don't see how it's gonna hold it and keep it from turning??
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St. Jude Donor '09
I hoped I might get lucky in my swap over to stainless lines, but I've got the dreaded stripped fittings on the hard lines on the first two wheels I've tried.
I have the correct die (10mm x1), but I can't see how I'm going to get it in there with the t-handle... not enough room to turn it.
I've never cut and flanged a line before, so I'm not sure that will be any easier. I'd roto-zip the end off, and I'd need to get the tool. I'm not even sure what the tool looks like. Can I get it back in there better than the die tool?
Any help from the veterans on which way to go??
I've got these new DRM brake lines and powdercoated calipers just itching to get hooked up.
I have the correct die (10mm x1), but I can't see how I'm going to get it in there with the t-handle... not enough room to turn it.
I've never cut and flanged a line before, so I'm not sure that will be any easier. I'd roto-zip the end off, and I'd need to get the tool. I'm not even sure what the tool looks like. Can I get it back in there better than the die tool?
Any help from the veterans on which way to go??
I've got these new DRM brake lines and powdercoated calipers just itching to get hooked up
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San
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Thanks San. I'm leaning this way. I'll call around to Auto Zones tomorrow to check on the tool. I'm also going to call DRM and see if they have a better fitting than the OEM. I've worked with much better fittings on the motorcycles I've done.
I'll let you know how things go.
TJ -- I think I get it... I seem to remember seeing 8-sided dies before. I just don't have any.
Thanks guys!
I'll let you know how things go.
TJ -- I think I get it... I seem to remember seeing 8-sided dies before. I just don't have any.
Thanks guys!
Safety Car
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From: Los Alamitos California
St. Jude Donor '09
Thanks San. I'm leaning this way. I'll call around to Auto Zones tomorrow to check on the tool. I'm also going to call DRM and see if they have a better fitting than the OEM. I've worked with much better fittings on the motorcycles I've done.
I'll let you know how things go.
TJ -- I think I get it... I seem to remember seeing 8-sided dies before. I just don't have any.
Thanks guys!
I'll let you know how things go.
TJ -- I think I get it... I seem to remember seeing 8-sided dies before. I just don't have any.
Thanks guys!
I have a die, but it wasn't going to work on the stripped fitting with the limited space.
San
Last edited by oldmansan; Jan 9, 2011 at 07:58 PM.
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Hmm well, all my thread dies are hex shapped. You can get a NAPA thread die in that size that is hex shapped, I know because I have one that I needed to buy last year for this very same issue.
Drifting
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Resurrecting this old but useful thread. Just had this happen to me. Both passenger side steel line nuts with stripped thread while upgrading to ss lines . I was able to rethread them with an M10x1 die. Looks like the rear is holding but the front is leaking.
Before I go and cut the steel line, install a new nut and double flare to the line... Does anyone have any other ideas on stopping the leak?
Thx
H
Before I go and cut the steel line, install a new nut and double flare to the line... Does anyone have any other ideas on stopping the leak?
Thx
H
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Resurrecting this old but useful thread. Just had this happen to me. Both passenger side steel line nuts with stripped thread while upgrading to ss lines . I was able to rethread them with an M10x1 die. Looks like the rear is holding but the front is leaking.
Before I go and cut the steel line, install a new nut and double flare to the line... Does anyone have any other ideas on stopping the leak?
Thx
H
Before I go and cut the steel line, install a new nut and double flare to the line... Does anyone have any other ideas on stopping the leak?
Thx
H
Randy
Drifting
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Since the threads have little to do with the sealing of the line. Inspect the flare on the brake line. Then try loosening and tightening the fitting down a couple times. In hopes to get the over-tightened smashed flare to come back into the proper angle. This really sucks we fight them also one car 3 out of 4, the next 2 out of the 4, the next all of them. Even a new or used rubber line sometimes will not go on.
Randy
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H
Happy New Year.
Drifting
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Well... Tried the drill bit to chamfer the flare, that didn't work, still leaked.
Bit the bullet went to Autozone and got the inline flaring tool, not bad for $25. Did a nice job. It's very compact and allows you to do the job right there on the car. Got flare nuts and a line cutter as well.
An observation not previously mentioned. The flaring tool only works for 3/16ths line. Had a shock when I set it up and and it didn't fit the line. The line was larger. Looking closely I found that the line has a what appears to be a PVC coating bonded to the line. Once I removed the coating with a razor blade it fit fine. As previously noted put that new flare nut on there right away after you cut the line. Almost forgot it. I found that the 3/16ths nut wouldn't fit the line because of the PVC coating. Had to drill out the center of the nut to go over the line. Aside from those two complications it went well. Still it a real pain to work with brake fluid dripping all over.
H
Bit the bullet went to Autozone and got the inline flaring tool, not bad for $25. Did a nice job. It's very compact and allows you to do the job right there on the car. Got flare nuts and a line cutter as well.
An observation not previously mentioned. The flaring tool only works for 3/16ths line. Had a shock when I set it up and and it didn't fit the line. The line was larger. Looking closely I found that the line has a what appears to be a PVC coating bonded to the line. Once I removed the coating with a razor blade it fit fine. As previously noted put that new flare nut on there right away after you cut the line. Almost forgot it. I found that the 3/16ths nut wouldn't fit the line because of the PVC coating. Had to drill out the center of the nut to go over the line. Aside from those two complications it went well. Still it a real pain to work with brake fluid dripping all over.
H
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Installed Stop Tech lines 4 months ago with some issues. Just noticed a good size brake fluid leak from the left front. My Chevy dealer told me the lines did not have a part number and you just had to make them. Is this the case? I would like to replace with new if possible, if not I think i might just make new ones out of s/s
Racer
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Installed Stop Tech lines 4 months ago with some issues. Just noticed a good size brake fluid leak from the left front. My Chevy dealer told me the lines did not have a part number and you just had to make them. Is this the case? I would like to replace with new if possible, if not I think i might just make new ones out of s/s
I had to replace my rear line and there was a GM part number. Sorry I do not have the number.
Drifting
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St. Jude Donor '08
Resurrecting this old but useful thread. Just had this happen to me. Both passenger side steel line nuts with stripped thread while upgrading to ss lines . I was able to rethread them with an M10x1 die. Looks like the rear is holding but the front is leaking.
Before I go and cut the steel line, install a new nut and double flare to the line... Does anyone have any other ideas on stopping the leak?
Thx
H
Before I go and cut the steel line, install a new nut and double flare to the line... Does anyone have any other ideas on stopping the leak?
Thx
H
Drifting
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From: Sparks NV
Installed Stop Tech lines 4 months ago with some issues. Just noticed a good size brake fluid leak from the left front. My Chevy dealer told me the lines did not have a part number and you just had to make them. Is this the case? I would like to replace with new if possible, if not I think i might just make new ones out of s/s
H
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From: Sparks NV