Body placement on chassis
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Boomer, sorry in advance for a slight thread hi-jack.
Based on this pic, the engine appearing to be behind the front axle, wouldn't the Vett be considered a mid-engine design? I have heard the term of a forward mid-engine applied to other cars of similar layout/config. Or is this an exagerated and conjured term for marketing purposes only?
Based on this pic, the engine appearing to be behind the front axle, wouldn't the Vett be considered a mid-engine design? I have heard the term of a forward mid-engine applied to other cars of similar layout/config. Or is this an exagerated and conjured term for marketing purposes only?
But yes, there is no doubting that the vehicle pictured is indeed a FULL FRAMED vehicle.
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Boomer, sorry in advance for a slight thread hi-jack.
Based on this pic, the engine appearing to be behind the front axle, wouldn't the Vett be considered a mid-engine design? I have heard the term of a forward mid-engine applied to other cars of similar layout/config. Or is this an exagerated and conjured term for marketing purposes only?
Based on this pic, the engine appearing to be behind the front axle, wouldn't the Vett be considered a mid-engine design? I have heard the term of a forward mid-engine applied to other cars of similar layout/config. Or is this an exagerated and conjured term for marketing purposes only?
Impossible to do that since the introduction on the C4 continuing through the C6.
In fact the C5/C6 and the human body are prime examples of similar unibody construction. Neither have monocoque outer panels. Neither can have the "Body" removed from the "skeleton" and be self supporting on it's own. The human skeleton can not be "rolled" around with out the "body". Just like the human body, the C5/C6 is a unibody.
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Regardless of GM advertizing the C6 is a Perimeter Frame vehicle. GM advertizing likes to talk in circles. They make a big deal about a hydro formed aluminum frame on the Z06 and then Advertize it as a "Spaceframe". A true space frame car has no main frame rails. A true unibody car has no seperate frame.
The only constuction difference between a C6 and any other body on frame vehicle is the way the body is attached to the frame and the sequence of the attachment.
The only constuction difference between a C6 and any other body on frame vehicle is the way the body is attached to the frame and the sequence of the attachment.
Guess what. The C4 is a unibody. The difference between the C4 and the C5/C6 is that the C4 Space frame is made up with a bunch of steel stampings welded together. The C5/C6 is basically of the same design except for the C5/C6 having hydroformed rails replacing the multi-piece stampings welded together. Like the C5/C6 the C4 is covered by SMC panels and is not of a monocoque construction.
http://members.shaw.ca/agent86/Frame%20Specs.pdf
Compare to the C5/C6 space frame. Look damn near the same, don't they?
http://www.smokinvette.com/corvettep...o.php/photo/84
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/03-Co...-/180579186764
The rear tub of the Corvette is plastic glued to the steel space frame and the front wheel housings are plastic glued to the space frame. GM could have made the rear tub and the front wheel housings from steel stampings and welded them to the space frame, like BMW did.
Do you know the difference between a Mcpherson Strut and a double wishbone suspension?
The BMW has a McPherson Strut from suspension thus it has the tall strut towers. The Corvette has a double wishbone front suspension so it does not need the tall strut towers. But, both cars could be designed with the opposite front suspension then they have and it wouldn't affect their being of a unibody design.
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Boomer, sorry in advance for a slight thread hi-jack.
Based on this pic, the engine appearing to be behind the front axle, wouldn't the Vett be considered a mid-engine design? I have heard the term of a forward mid-engine applied to other cars of similar layout/config. Or is this an exagerated and conjured term for marketing purposes only?
Based on this pic, the engine appearing to be behind the front axle, wouldn't the Vett be considered a mid-engine design? I have heard the term of a forward mid-engine applied to other cars of similar layout/config. Or is this an exagerated and conjured term for marketing purposes only?
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