Theft Deterrent Mode??
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Racer
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From: Scottsdale AZ
Theft Deterrent Mode??
Hi Folks,
I was taking my wifes 2007 C6 Z51 Auto to the car wash being the nice hubby that I am (hand wash of course). And not being used to the car I hopped in and drove away to the gas station about 5 miles away. It then dawned on me that the key fob was not in the car. So I pushed the ignition button again and it started up so I figured I'm OK and that the fob was somewhere in the car. Well, it wasn't. Had to get the car wash guy to drive it over to me as the wash attendent left it in his pocket.
The car would not start even when the FOB arrived. It recognized it (driver 1), but when I pushed start the whole dash would just go dark. I had to be towed home. I figured I ran the battery down, but jumping didn't help so I replaced the battery as it was down to 4.5 volts
Still the same issues. Towed it to the dealer today and they say the car went into "Theft Deterrent Mode" and the computer had locked the system up and they had to manually reset the computer system to tell the car it wasn't stolen and re-mate the 2 key fobs.
Does this sound right? The key fob when returned to me still opened the door and was recognized by the computer, so I don't understand why the car just didn't start back up when the Fob arrived at the gas station.
Any thoughts?
I was taking my wifes 2007 C6 Z51 Auto to the car wash being the nice hubby that I am (hand wash of course). And not being used to the car I hopped in and drove away to the gas station about 5 miles away. It then dawned on me that the key fob was not in the car. So I pushed the ignition button again and it started up so I figured I'm OK and that the fob was somewhere in the car. Well, it wasn't. Had to get the car wash guy to drive it over to me as the wash attendent left it in his pocket.
The car would not start even when the FOB arrived. It recognized it (driver 1), but when I pushed start the whole dash would just go dark. I had to be towed home. I figured I ran the battery down, but jumping didn't help so I replaced the battery as it was down to 4.5 volts
Still the same issues. Towed it to the dealer today and they say the car went into "Theft Deterrent Mode" and the computer had locked the system up and they had to manually reset the computer system to tell the car it wasn't stolen and re-mate the 2 key fobs.
Does this sound right? The key fob when returned to me still opened the door and was recognized by the computer, so I don't understand why the car just didn't start back up when the Fob arrived at the gas station.
Any thoughts?
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From: Anthony TX
CI 6,7,8,9,11 Vet
St. Jude Donor '08
If you had a LOW BATTERY, anything is possible because the C6 DOES NOT LIKE LOW VOLTAGE!
Ive had the same DARK DASH issue and never had a security issue that was causing it. There have been numerous other people that have seen the same issue. Unless the STEALERSHIP can show you that in writing out of the service manual or in a tech bulliten, ther BLOWING SMOKE UP YOUR KILT cause they dont have a clue either...
In my case, just turning the ignition switch to OFF and then to ACC and then to START, seemed to resolve the issue. When I cold my 06 MN6 coupe, the potential buyer failed to fully press the clutch peddle in all the way and presses the START button numerous times to try to start the engine. The car didnt like that and I saw the same issue. Again, pressing the OFF, ACC and then start, seemed to solve the problem.
Hope this helps.
BC
Ive had the same DARK DASH issue and never had a security issue that was causing it. There have been numerous other people that have seen the same issue. Unless the STEALERSHIP can show you that in writing out of the service manual or in a tech bulliten, ther BLOWING SMOKE UP YOUR KILT cause they dont have a clue either...
In my case, just turning the ignition switch to OFF and then to ACC and then to START, seemed to resolve the issue. When I cold my 06 MN6 coupe, the potential buyer failed to fully press the clutch peddle in all the way and presses the START button numerous times to try to start the engine. The car didnt like that and I saw the same issue. Again, pressing the OFF, ACC and then start, seemed to solve the problem.
Hope this helps.
BC
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Racer
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 484
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From: Scottsdale AZ
If you had a LOW BATTERY, anything is possible because the C6 DOES NOT LIKE LOW VOLTAGE!
Ive had the same DARK DASH issue and never had a security issue that was causing it. There have been numerous other people that have seen the same issue. Unless the STEALERSHIP can show you that in writing out of the service manual or in a tech bulliten, ther BLOWING SMOKE UP YOUR KILT cause they dont have a clue either...
In my case, just turning the ignition switch to OFF and then to ACC and then to START, seemed to resolve the issue. When I cold my 06 MN6 coupe, the potential buyer failed to fully press the clutch peddle in all the way and presses the START button numerous times to try to start the engine. The car didnt like that and I saw the same issue. Again, pressing the OFF, ACC and then start, seemed to solve the problem.
Hope this helps.
BC
Ive had the same DARK DASH issue and never had a security issue that was causing it. There have been numerous other people that have seen the same issue. Unless the STEALERSHIP can show you that in writing out of the service manual or in a tech bulliten, ther BLOWING SMOKE UP YOUR KILT cause they dont have a clue either...
In my case, just turning the ignition switch to OFF and then to ACC and then to START, seemed to resolve the issue. When I cold my 06 MN6 coupe, the potential buyer failed to fully press the clutch peddle in all the way and presses the START button numerous times to try to start the engine. The car didnt like that and I saw the same issue. Again, pressing the OFF, ACC and then start, seemed to solve the problem.
Hope this helps.
BC
I have tried everything over the course of the week. Cycling the button, attempting to reprogram the fob, etc. Wouldn't let me do much. I scoured these forums and couldn't find anyone who has the exact same issue I had,
After going over to pick the car up, I explained that I don't see how it's possible for the car to let me in, recognize driver "one" and have the computer still lock me out for theft settings. A good fob recognition should override all that is my understanding.
They have decided to keep the car for the day and are now thinking it's the "receiver"
I think that they don't know what the problem is and a tech came up with the Theft deterrent story. I think that rebooting the computer solved the issue for now but I am worried to say the least about my wife getting stranded etc.
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From: Anthony TX
CI 6,7,8,9,11 Vet
St. Jude Donor '08
What ever good it will do you,,, here are the FOUR different FOB programming routines:
Transmitter Programming (Domestic)
Important: Do not operate or program the key fobs in the vicinity of other vehicles that are in the keyless entry program mode. This will prevent the programming of the key fobs to the incorrect vehicle.
There are 4 methods for programming key fobs. Up to 4 key fobs may be programmed to the remote control door lock receiver (RCDLR). Each programmed key fob is given a position of #1-#4 in the RCDLR memory.
Method 1 - Key Fob Quick Learn
This procedure will add key fobs. Fobs will be numbered in sequence based on when they are programmed; if 2 fobs are currently programmed to the RCDLR, a fob programmed using this method will be numbered as Fob 3. This procedure requires that you have a known good key fob, a replacement key fob, and the vehicles mechanical key.
Important: This procedure is not available when the maximum number of fobs (4) have been programmed. If 4 key fobs are programmed to this RCDLR and this method is attempted, the driver information center (DIC) will display MAX FOBS LEARNED and the programming procedure will exit. Method 4 must be used in this instance.
1. The vehicle must be OFF.
2. Open the rear compartment.
3. Place a known key fob within the interior of the vehicle.
4. At the rear of the vehicle insert the vehicle key in the rear compartment lock cylinder located in the lower left and cycle the key 5 times within 5 seconds.
5. The DIC will display a message: READY FOR FOB X (X = fob 2, 3, or 4).
6. Place the replacement key fob in the glove box fob pocket with the buttons facing right.
7. A beep will occur and the DIC will display: READY FOR FOB X (X = fob 3 or 4) or MAX FOBS LEARNED.
8. If programming additional key fobs, repeat steps 5 and 6, or press the OFF/ACC portion of the ignition switch to exit programming mode.
9. Operate the active portion of each key fob to exit the programming and to verify correct system operation.
Method 2 - Key Fob Slot Programming
This procedure will add or replace a key fob. Method 2 allows you to choose which location (slot) the unprogrammed fob will be learned to. If you are replacing a key fob, this method will erase the previously known key fob programmed to that particular slot. This procedure requires that you have a known good key fob, a replacement key fob, the vehicle mechanical key, and a scan tool.
Important: This procedure is not available when the maximum number of fobs (4) have been programmed. If 4 key fobs are programmed to this RCDLR and this method is attempted, the DIC will display MAX FOBS LEARNED and the programming procedure will exit. Method 4 must be used in this instance.
1. The vehicle must be OFF.
2. Open the rear compartment.
3. Place a known key fob within the interior of the vehicle.
4. At the rear of the vehicle insert the vehicle key in the rear compartment lock cylinder located in the lower left and cycle the key 5 times within 5 seconds.
5. Install a scan tool.
6. Use the scan tool, to access the following:
• Vehicle Control Systems
• Computer/Integrating Systems
• Module Replacement/Setup
• RCDLR
• Program Key Fobs
11. Select Fob X (X = 1, 2, 3, or 4) on the scan tool. This will be the slot you wish to program to.
12. Place the replacement key fob in the glove box pocket with the buttons facing right. A beep will occur indicating programming completion. The previously known fob is now erased.
13. If programming additional key fobs, repeat steps 4-8, or press the OFF/ACC portion of the ignition switch to exit programming.
14. Remove the scan tool.
15. Operate the active portion of each key fob to exit the programming and verify correct system operation.
Method 3 - Key Fob Auto Learn
This procedure will first erase all known key fobs. The procedure will then program a single or multiple key fobs. Method 3 is a series of three 10-minute key cycles, for a total of 30 minutes. This procedure requires that you have a replacement key fob and the vehicle mechanical key.
Important: All previously programmed key fobs will be erased upon completion of the 30-minute programming procedure. The order in which the key fobs are programmed will determine its numbering position within the RCDLR memory. The first key fob programmed will be key fob #1, and the second key fob programmed will be key fob #2. The number stamped on the key fob case is for reference only: #2 can be programmed as #1.
Do not place any known good key fobs in the vicinity of the vehicle when programming with Method 3. If the RCDLR recognizes a known good key fob during Method 3 programming, the programming mode will resort to Method 1.
1. The vehicle must be OFF.
2. Open the rear compartment.
3. Place the replacement key fob in the glove box pocket with the buttons facing right.
4. At the rear of the vehicle insert the vehicle key in the rear compartment lock cylinder located in the lower left and cycle the key 5 times within 5 seconds.
5. The DIC will display a message: OFF/ACC TO LEARN.
6. Press the OFF/ACC portion of the ignition button.
7. The DIC will display a message: WAIT 10 MINUTES, then it will count down from 10 to 0, one minute at a time.
8. When the counter reaches 0, DIC will display OFF/ACC TO LEARN.
9. Repeat steps 5-7 two more times, for a total of 30 minutes.
10. A beep will occur and the DIC will display: READY FOR FOB 1. At this time all previously known key fobs have been erased. When fob 1 is programmed a beep will be heard and the DIC will display a message: READY FOR FOB 2.
11. Additional key fobs can be programmed by taking fob 1 out of the pocket and inserting fob 2. If desired, up to 4 fobs can be programmed. Once 4 fobs have been learned, the DIC will display a message: MAX FOBS LEARNED, and automatically exit the program mode.
12. If learning less than 4 key fobs, press the OFF/ACC portion of the ignition button to exit the program mode.
13. Operate the active portion of each key fob to exit the programming and verify correct system operation.
Method 4 - Service Programming System Fob Programming
This procedure is a 10-minute relearn procedure using the Techline Terminal with SPS software. Once the 10-minute timer has expired, the fobs can be programmed similar to Method 2 using slot programming. A scan tool, Techline Terminal, and a replacement key fob are required to perform this procedure.
1. Place the vehicle in the Vehicle On, Engine Off mode.
2. Connect a scan tool to the vehicle.
3. Insure that all power consuming devices are turned OFF on the vehicle.
4. With a scan tool, select Request Info under Service Programming System and follow the scan tool on-screen instructions.
5. Disconnect the scan tool from the vehicle and connect the scan tool to a Techline Terminal with the current Service Programming System (SPS) software.
6. Turn the vehicle OFF.
7. On the Techline Terminal, select Service Programming System and follow the Techline Terminal on-screen instructions. Ensure the correct programming procedure is selected based on component being replaced or programmed. See Important above.
8. Disconnect the scan tool from the Techline Terminal and re-connect the scan tool to the vehicle.
9. With a scan tool, select Program ECU under Service Programming System.
10. At this point the scan tool must remain connected for the duration of the 10 minute relearn procedure.
11. When the 10 minute relearn procedure has completed, use the scan tool to access the following:
• Vehicle Control Systems
• Computer/Integrating Systems
• Module Replacement/Setup
• RCDLR
• Program Key Fobs
16. Select Fob X (X = 1, 2, 3, or 4) on the scan tool. This will be the slot you wish to program to.
17. Place the replacement key fob in the glove box pocket with the buttons facing right. A beep will occur indicating programming completion. The previously known fob is now erased.
18. If programming additional key fobs, repeat steps 12-13, or press the OFF/ACC portion of the ignition switch to exit programming.
19. Remove the scan tool.
20. Operate the active portion of each key fob to exit the programming and verify correct system operation.
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I have it in a ord doc. It looks bette in the word doc. PM me if you want the word doc.
BC
Transmitter Programming (Domestic)
Important: Do not operate or program the key fobs in the vicinity of other vehicles that are in the keyless entry program mode. This will prevent the programming of the key fobs to the incorrect vehicle.
There are 4 methods for programming key fobs. Up to 4 key fobs may be programmed to the remote control door lock receiver (RCDLR). Each programmed key fob is given a position of #1-#4 in the RCDLR memory.
Method 1 - Key Fob Quick Learn
This procedure will add key fobs. Fobs will be numbered in sequence based on when they are programmed; if 2 fobs are currently programmed to the RCDLR, a fob programmed using this method will be numbered as Fob 3. This procedure requires that you have a known good key fob, a replacement key fob, and the vehicles mechanical key.
Important: This procedure is not available when the maximum number of fobs (4) have been programmed. If 4 key fobs are programmed to this RCDLR and this method is attempted, the driver information center (DIC) will display MAX FOBS LEARNED and the programming procedure will exit. Method 4 must be used in this instance.
1. The vehicle must be OFF.
2. Open the rear compartment.
3. Place a known key fob within the interior of the vehicle.
4. At the rear of the vehicle insert the vehicle key in the rear compartment lock cylinder located in the lower left and cycle the key 5 times within 5 seconds.
5. The DIC will display a message: READY FOR FOB X (X = fob 2, 3, or 4).
6. Place the replacement key fob in the glove box fob pocket with the buttons facing right.
7. A beep will occur and the DIC will display: READY FOR FOB X (X = fob 3 or 4) or MAX FOBS LEARNED.
8. If programming additional key fobs, repeat steps 5 and 6, or press the OFF/ACC portion of the ignition switch to exit programming mode.
9. Operate the active portion of each key fob to exit the programming and to verify correct system operation.
Method 2 - Key Fob Slot Programming
This procedure will add or replace a key fob. Method 2 allows you to choose which location (slot) the unprogrammed fob will be learned to. If you are replacing a key fob, this method will erase the previously known key fob programmed to that particular slot. This procedure requires that you have a known good key fob, a replacement key fob, the vehicle mechanical key, and a scan tool.
Important: This procedure is not available when the maximum number of fobs (4) have been programmed. If 4 key fobs are programmed to this RCDLR and this method is attempted, the DIC will display MAX FOBS LEARNED and the programming procedure will exit. Method 4 must be used in this instance.
1. The vehicle must be OFF.
2. Open the rear compartment.
3. Place a known key fob within the interior of the vehicle.
4. At the rear of the vehicle insert the vehicle key in the rear compartment lock cylinder located in the lower left and cycle the key 5 times within 5 seconds.
5. Install a scan tool.
6. Use the scan tool, to access the following:
• Vehicle Control Systems
• Computer/Integrating Systems
• Module Replacement/Setup
• RCDLR
• Program Key Fobs
11. Select Fob X (X = 1, 2, 3, or 4) on the scan tool. This will be the slot you wish to program to.
12. Place the replacement key fob in the glove box pocket with the buttons facing right. A beep will occur indicating programming completion. The previously known fob is now erased.
13. If programming additional key fobs, repeat steps 4-8, or press the OFF/ACC portion of the ignition switch to exit programming.
14. Remove the scan tool.
15. Operate the active portion of each key fob to exit the programming and verify correct system operation.
Method 3 - Key Fob Auto Learn
This procedure will first erase all known key fobs. The procedure will then program a single or multiple key fobs. Method 3 is a series of three 10-minute key cycles, for a total of 30 minutes. This procedure requires that you have a replacement key fob and the vehicle mechanical key.
Important: All previously programmed key fobs will be erased upon completion of the 30-minute programming procedure. The order in which the key fobs are programmed will determine its numbering position within the RCDLR memory. The first key fob programmed will be key fob #1, and the second key fob programmed will be key fob #2. The number stamped on the key fob case is for reference only: #2 can be programmed as #1.
Do not place any known good key fobs in the vicinity of the vehicle when programming with Method 3. If the RCDLR recognizes a known good key fob during Method 3 programming, the programming mode will resort to Method 1.
1. The vehicle must be OFF.
2. Open the rear compartment.
3. Place the replacement key fob in the glove box pocket with the buttons facing right.
4. At the rear of the vehicle insert the vehicle key in the rear compartment lock cylinder located in the lower left and cycle the key 5 times within 5 seconds.
5. The DIC will display a message: OFF/ACC TO LEARN.
6. Press the OFF/ACC portion of the ignition button.
7. The DIC will display a message: WAIT 10 MINUTES, then it will count down from 10 to 0, one minute at a time.
8. When the counter reaches 0, DIC will display OFF/ACC TO LEARN.
9. Repeat steps 5-7 two more times, for a total of 30 minutes.
10. A beep will occur and the DIC will display: READY FOR FOB 1. At this time all previously known key fobs have been erased. When fob 1 is programmed a beep will be heard and the DIC will display a message: READY FOR FOB 2.
11. Additional key fobs can be programmed by taking fob 1 out of the pocket and inserting fob 2. If desired, up to 4 fobs can be programmed. Once 4 fobs have been learned, the DIC will display a message: MAX FOBS LEARNED, and automatically exit the program mode.
12. If learning less than 4 key fobs, press the OFF/ACC portion of the ignition button to exit the program mode.
13. Operate the active portion of each key fob to exit the programming and verify correct system operation.
Method 4 - Service Programming System Fob Programming
This procedure is a 10-minute relearn procedure using the Techline Terminal with SPS software. Once the 10-minute timer has expired, the fobs can be programmed similar to Method 2 using slot programming. A scan tool, Techline Terminal, and a replacement key fob are required to perform this procedure.
1. Place the vehicle in the Vehicle On, Engine Off mode.
2. Connect a scan tool to the vehicle.
3. Insure that all power consuming devices are turned OFF on the vehicle.
4. With a scan tool, select Request Info under Service Programming System and follow the scan tool on-screen instructions.
5. Disconnect the scan tool from the vehicle and connect the scan tool to a Techline Terminal with the current Service Programming System (SPS) software.
6. Turn the vehicle OFF.
7. On the Techline Terminal, select Service Programming System and follow the Techline Terminal on-screen instructions. Ensure the correct programming procedure is selected based on component being replaced or programmed. See Important above.
8. Disconnect the scan tool from the Techline Terminal and re-connect the scan tool to the vehicle.
9. With a scan tool, select Program ECU under Service Programming System.
10. At this point the scan tool must remain connected for the duration of the 10 minute relearn procedure.
11. When the 10 minute relearn procedure has completed, use the scan tool to access the following:
• Vehicle Control Systems
• Computer/Integrating Systems
• Module Replacement/Setup
• RCDLR
• Program Key Fobs
16. Select Fob X (X = 1, 2, 3, or 4) on the scan tool. This will be the slot you wish to program to.
17. Place the replacement key fob in the glove box pocket with the buttons facing right. A beep will occur indicating programming completion. The previously known fob is now erased.
18. If programming additional key fobs, repeat steps 12-13, or press the OFF/ACC portion of the ignition switch to exit programming.
19. Remove the scan tool.
20. Operate the active portion of each key fob to exit the programming and verify correct system operation.
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I have it in a ord doc. It looks bette in the word doc. PM me if you want the word doc.
BC
