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Old Mar 17, 2011 | 09:44 PM
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Hey, I made a previous thread before and thought I found the problem, but not completely sure. Today was driving home and hit a large pothole with my front passenger side tire. Just replaced the fronts last week and now I have a bubble on the brand new tire
Now my service abs light is on and the red brake light is on and won't go off when the E-brake is fully down. Anyone else have this happen? I'm going to bring the car to a friend to check the code and hopefully can get the new tire fixed under warranty as it has been way less than 30 days since I purchased them. The steering wheel is VERY tight now so obviously something isn't right. Hopefully it's just a sensor and the wheel isn't bent but again does anyone have any info on what may be wrong? Sorry for the double post, I just noticed the bubble on the tire not too long ago and used the search button but most of the info has come up on c5's and I can't pull any codes on the c6 without a reader...

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Old Mar 17, 2011 | 11:55 PM
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Hey, I made a previous thread before and thought I found the problem, but not completely sure. Today was driving home and hit a large pothole with my front passenger side tire. Just replaced the fronts last week and now I have a bubble on the brand new tire
Now my service abs light is on and the red brake light is on and won't go off when the E-brake is fully down. Anyone else have this happen? I'm going to bring the car to a friend to check the code and hopefully can get the new tire fixed under warranty as it has been way less than 30 days since I purchased them. The steering wheel is VERY tight now so obviously something isn't right. Hopefully it's just a sensor and the wheel isn't bent but again does anyone have any info on what may be wrong? Sorry for the double post, I just noticed the bubble on the tire not too long ago and used the search button but most of the info has come up on c5's and I can't pull any codes on the c6 without a reader...

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Unless you have access to a Tech II scanner you won't be able to read any of those codes as they'll be stored in the BCM and/or EBCM which your average code reader can't access.

There may be something you can do in the meantime though. On each wheel hub assembly is a connector for a vehicle speed sensor. I would suggest removing each wheel to make sure they're all still clipped on properly and to also disconnect and reconnect each one to reseat the electrical connection.
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Old Mar 18, 2011 | 12:03 AM
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thanks, I will give that a shot in the am. Hopefully I don't have to go to Chevy for this one.

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On the C5, there is also another connector for the sensor on top of the frame. I have had this come disconnected 3 times. See if your C6 has one there also.
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The sensors are part of the wheel bearing/hub assy's and are not replaceable as an individual part. You have to replace the whole bearing hub assy, which is actually pretty easy. The wires coming off the Wheel Speed Sensors are only about 6 inches long. On the front wheels they go to a connector right behind the spindle, then to an intermediate cable that is probably 2 foot long. So be sure and check both connectors on each side of the front.

Not real good, but this is the only picture I could find.
1, 2, 3 and 4 actually point to the sensor assy's. The red arrows I added are the front connectors.



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Old Mar 18, 2011 | 01:28 AM
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thanks for the info guys, I'll be checking everything in the am. Much appreciated so far
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VERY long morning. Thanks again for everyone's help, I brought the car in and the snap on scanner should a code of U0121. We cleared it, but it came back right after. Discouraged I called up Chevy and made an appointment for tuesday morning to get the car checked but on my way home the code went away... and now it drives perfect again. I made sure all the connections were tight like recommended in the thread and all is well now. Will pop back on if it comes back, but hope everything stays fixed.


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Did you ever solve this or found out what the problem was?
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My guess is wheel sensor/wheel bearing. I've seen this on a bunch of GM stuff, Envoys etc.
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Old Jun 15, 2012 | 09:56 AM
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That can/should cause a C1221 or similar, but not a u0121.
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Old Jun 15, 2012 | 01:53 PM
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U0100 - U0299
Lost Communications with XXX Control Module

IF,,,, the EBTCM lost comms with the BCM (for what ever reason) you would feel a tighter steering because of the MAGNASTEER in the steering box does not work without the EBTCM being fully operational. Completely normal!

I have not taken a C6 wheel speed sensor connector apart "YET" but, if there anything like the C5 connector, the female pins are often suspect.

The female pins can spread and deform under vibration / shock and will loose contact causing a loss of wheel speed sensor signal.

Here is an example of what a new and old (bad) wheel speed sensor femal connector looks like on a C5. The OLD one has deformed pins:



My guess is that you did have a wheel speed sensor issue and now the connection is good again. When you cycle the ignition, the EBTCM clears the DTCs and goes into a self test. If theres anything wrong during that ignition cycle, you will see messages. Read the DTCs prior to turning OFF the ignition to see what codes/DTCs caused the messages.



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