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Old Mar 23, 2011 | 04:57 PM
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And a set of drag radials will make your track life much more fun. My super big 345 Invos are terrible on the drag strip, not much better than runflats, and my 555RII's were likewise terrible. I believe the NT05 is also a road course tire, so I'd expect it to be similarly less than optimal for the drag strip.

After drag radials, a stall converter will be be the best mod you can put on for track use.

BTW I bet the car looks great with the ZR1 kit...I just did the Grand Sport kit myself and absolutely love the new look. It's like a new car!
Invos ARE terrible for the track. The NT05 is not a road course tire (it's a regular street radial), but is much improved over the Invo for dry traction.
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The DA will be the biggest thing working against you. Post the exact date and time of when you ran your prior best time and I can crunch some numbers.
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And a set of drag radials will make your track life much more fun. My super big 345 Invos are terrible on the drag strip, not much better than runflats, and my 555RII's were likewise terrible. I believe the NT05 is also a road course tire, so I'd expect it to be similarly less than optimal for the drag strip.

After drag radials, a stall converter will be be the best mod you can put on for track use.

BTW I bet the car looks great with the ZR1 kit...I just did the Grand Sport kit myself and absolutely love the new look. It's like a new car!
i heard drag radials would snap my driveshaft,rear end,or axles with my power level? that is what a bunch of people told me so i didn't get the nt05r i got the next best thing down the nt05 or i would bought the drag radials!!
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Old Mar 23, 2011 | 07:19 PM
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i heard drag radials would snap my driveshaft,rear end,or axles with my power level? that is what a bunch of people told me so i didn't get the nt05r i got the next best thing down the nt05 or i would bought the drag radials!!
You should probably stop listening to your "bunch of people" and trust people who actually go to the track instead of just talking about it!

On the contrary, street tires will have much more of a tendency to introduce wheel hop which will do more damage on those components as compared to a clean launch with drag radials. With 73K on my car I'm still running my stock axles and a stock driveshaft (I had to replace mine only because I bent the front shaft during the LS7 swap).

The diff I'm running in the car is from a Z06 and is pretty much bulletproof but I don't know how that'll compare to yours.
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Old Mar 23, 2011 | 07:53 PM
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You should probably stop listening to your "bunch of people" and trust people who actually go to the track instead of just talking about it!
Never had a problem with Hoosier's or BFG drag radials and when I had the car I made 466rwhp/411ftlbs with a C6 A6. Cut 1.53 60ft and ran 10.844@125.83mph

Subfloor, LS1LT1, myself, and pretty much all the people in this thread have run real drag radials. Hoosier's being on the top of the drag radial list.

Forget what you heard and listen to all that really have raced their C6 A6's in this thread.

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Old Mar 23, 2011 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by thesubfloor

On the contrary, street tires will have much more of a tendency to introduce wheel hop which will do more damage on those components as compared to a clean launch with drag radials.
I've seen more rears break from street tires wheel hopping than I have with drag radials. My drag radials at 18 psi don't wheel hop at all.

OP you have an auto, you don't need to worry about your rear so much. But regardless, if you have wheel hop, let out.

One thing....
Sub, chime in on that problem with A6's spinning upon launch, then rehooking and downshifting to first and over revving? Or was that just Hoxxoh who had that problem.
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13.1-13.2 is what i was running before during the summer when i had ported intake,tb,headers,exhaust at sir and dynoed 370hp. i have gotten it all the way down to 12.5 with great wheather and track prep and was told it could even be better with tires! something does not add up? my car has to be faster than that. I personally think my car would run a 12 sec quarter mile any day no matter the conditions. when i first got the car it ran a 13.5 at sir at 110 i believe and that was during the summer as well. so since stock the added total of 110hp more and 90 more ft tq should easliy make it 1 sec faster than my slowest time even on a really crappy day right?
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Originally Posted by Mattraffai
i heard drag radials would snap my driveshaft,rear end,or axles with my power level?
Nah, maybe with a manual and an aggressive clutch that doesn't 'slip' well but it's very unlikely with an automatic on a stock converter at your power level.
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Old Mar 23, 2011 | 08:10 PM
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Sub, chime in on that problem with A6's spinning upon launch, then rehooking and downshifting to first and over revving? Or was that just Hoxxoh who had that problem.
I never had that happen. Must have been something with Hoxxoh's tune. Maybe if your cruising and nail the throttle it would downshift, but I never had that happen at the track and I had plenty of passes under me.
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Old Mar 23, 2011 | 08:13 PM
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no rotors or brakes from z06 put on. just the stock z51 brakes and rotors still on! i know it can affect performance but my traction was usless after head and cam install and i though bigger tires would compliment it perfect so i went with stock z06 rims sizes and did the kit so it would not look funny and of course those great looks were just as much a factor
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Old Mar 23, 2011 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1
Not with a stock torque converter. And I've seen +4000 and higher DA at Atco too ya know.





True. But I think it might depend on the temps (and even the trans, manual or auto), I've found 555Rs virtually useless under 45-50 degrees and that was with only 335rwhp.
I know almost any drag radial will start to go away in freezing temps but the 555Rs seemed to go much sooner. But in warmer weather I agree that they can do very well.
Jeanne was on a "Brand New" set of Nitto 555 this past Sat. and in 2 TT and 5 Elimination runs she only varied .008 in her 60' times.. and that is using BOTH lanes...

Of course the "Stock" converter has a lot to do with it... and if I ever decide to go to a 3600 I will have to change tires to MT or something = to them...

With the stock converter she was in the 12.3's @ 114 mph DEEP STAGING.. if she went in shallow I'm betting it would run 12.0x
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Originally Posted by Joe_G
Sub, chime in on that problem with A6's spinning upon launch, then rehooking and downshifting to first and over revving? Or was that just Hoxxoh who had that problem.
That can go one of a few different ways. If you get wheelspin with an A6 when you launch, depending on how bad it is the car will either shortshift on the 1-2 or bounce off the rev-limiter. My car generally short shifts but when I still had my LS2 it would hit the rev-limiter. What exactly dictates whether one or the happens I don't really know.

Tom will probably chime in here, but from what I remember he got pretty bad wheel spin, let up to try and get the car back under control and then erroneously put his foot back on the gas causing it to downshift and subquently over-rev.

The general rule of thumb with the A6 should be that if you have to take your foot off the gas completely to control the wheelspin then I would suggest just aborting the run. If however you only need to back off a bit but never remove your foot completely then you're usually okay to stay in it for the remainder of the run.
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Originally Posted by LSCHLEM
10.89 @ 129 at atco N.J.
Did you get that 10 second slip yet? All those mods you did, do you have at least one 10sec slip to show that you did it?

Priceless!!!!
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it was 442hp sae. i went with a small cam or i could have had 475+ from what i have been told with the trickflow 225 cnc heads i have!
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it was 442hp sae. i went with a small cam or i could have had 475+ from what i have been told with the trickflow 225 cnc heads i have!
We're still getting pretty decent air for the Saturday morning Test & Tunes in Sacramento. While the DA hasn't gone negative recently, if you feel like making the trip up here I can almost guarantee I'd send you home with a 10 second timeslip.
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Originally Posted by Mattraffai
it was 442hp sae. i went with a small cam or i could have had 475+ from what i have been told with the trickflow 225 cnc heads i have!
I agree with that.

You have a very nice setup.

I think even in the heat you'll be running low 12's. Get a converter and high 11's.

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We're still getting pretty decent air for the Saturday morning Test & Tunes in Sacramento. While the DA hasn't gone negative recently, if you feel like making the trip up here I can almost guarantee I'd send you home with a 10 second timeslip.
I think he has a stock converter...Not sure he would get 10's without a after-market converter?
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I think he has a stock converter...Not sure he would get 10's without a after-market converter?
Whoops, I forgot about that.

In that case, just plan to get here late Friday afternoon and then we'll install one that night and hit the track the next day. It only takes about 4-1/2 hours to do and I'll cut you a deal on the installation cost since you'll be driving from such a difference.

Or not, just a thought...
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Whoops, I forgot about that.

In that case, just plan to get here late Friday afternoon and then we'll install one that night and hit the track the next day. It only takes about 4-1/2 hours to do and I'll cut you a deal on the installation cost since you'll be driving from such a difference.

Or not, just a thought...
Mattraffai,

You can't beat that offer! I would take Subfloor up on his offer...Very cool.
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Mattraffai,

You can't beat that offer! I would take Subfloor up on his offer...Very cool.
There's no better mod for an automatic than that converter....

and a Sub trans tune has been tested and proven. I've heard the trans tune is a great mod on the automatic.
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There's no better mod for an automatic than that converter....

and a Sub trans tune has been tested and proven. I've heard the trans tune is a great mod on the automatic.
Especially since I don't charge for it either.
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