Superchargers for dummies....
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Racer
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Superchargers for dummies....
I just posted this on General Discussion, but probably should have come here first:
Folks, I'm thinking rather seriously about supercharging my '07 Z51 M6 (Callaway Magnacharger)but have some questions:
Assuming normal driving ( rather tame for me until it's time to hit the autobahn), what's the effect on fuel consumption ?
Callaway is claiming 100- 120 hp increase; can a stock 5656 tranny take that ??
One of the reasons I don't like a Z06 (blastphemy, I know) is because I can't take the roof off. That's because of that monster LS7 and it's torque.
Wouldn't this also be the case with my non Z06 framed Z51 ? Would I be in danger of overtorquing the frame / engine mounts ?
What say you ?
Danke
Folks, I'm thinking rather seriously about supercharging my '07 Z51 M6 (Callaway Magnacharger)but have some questions:
Assuming normal driving ( rather tame for me until it's time to hit the autobahn), what's the effect on fuel consumption ?
Callaway is claiming 100- 120 hp increase; can a stock 5656 tranny take that ??
One of the reasons I don't like a Z06 (blastphemy, I know) is because I can't take the roof off. That's because of that monster LS7 and it's torque.
Wouldn't this also be the case with my non Z06 framed Z51 ? Would I be in danger of overtorquing the frame / engine mounts ?
What say you ?
Danke
Le Mans Master
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My OPINION, would be two forget the whole callaway thing and save yourself a **** load of money.
Go with a centrifugal kit from either A&A or ECS, they are cheaper, will make more power, and have more room for future expandability if you feel the need for more power.
The blower will have ZERO effect on fuel consumption during normal driving conditions, actually with a good tune you will get better fuel milage then you currently do when your out of boost. Now when your beating her, she is gonna suck the fossils out of the ground, but thats to be expected.
A properly installed and tuned supercharger is perfectly safe and will damage nothing.
Go with a centrifugal kit from either A&A or ECS, they are cheaper, will make more power, and have more room for future expandability if you feel the need for more power.
The blower will have ZERO effect on fuel consumption during normal driving conditions, actually with a good tune you will get better fuel milage then you currently do when your out of boost. Now when your beating her, she is gonna suck the fossils out of the ground, but thats to be expected.
A properly installed and tuned supercharger is perfectly safe and will damage nothing.
Melting Slicks
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10
My OPINION, would be two forget the whole callaway thing and save yourself a **** load of money.
Go with a centrifugal kit from either A&A or ECS, they are cheaper, will make more power, and have more room for future expandability if you feel the need for more power.
The blower will have ZERO effect on fuel consumption during normal driving conditions, actually with a good tune you will get better fuel milage then you currently do when your out of boost. Now when your beating her, she is gonna suck the fossils out of the ground, but thats to be expected.
A properly installed and tuned supercharger is perfectly safe and will damage nothing.
Go with a centrifugal kit from either A&A or ECS, they are cheaper, will make more power, and have more room for future expandability if you feel the need for more power.
The blower will have ZERO effect on fuel consumption during normal driving conditions, actually with a good tune you will get better fuel milage then you currently do when your out of boost. Now when your beating her, she is gonna suck the fossils out of the ground, but thats to be expected.
A properly installed and tuned supercharger is perfectly safe and will damage nothing.
what he said!!!
I'm installing a Magnacharger on a friends vehicle and I can tell you a Centri will not only be cheaper, but will out preform a screw. ECS makes a great unit, and have great product support!!
Le Mans Master
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Well, it depends a LOT on what the guy is wanting and where he wants the power. A centri won't make the HUGE torque off idle as a Maggie or the Edelbrock kit. But a Maggie or Edelbrock won't make the top end rush a Centri will. For a daily driver guy that wants to "feel" power anytime he hits the throttle its tough to beat out a PD blower such as a Magnusson, Whipple or Edelbrock. The ECS kits are a bit better in the low end torque department because they spin theirs faster from the get go and use a restrictor plate. I hope to have my TVS2300 project in my car and running sometime around the end of May. It is a all forged LS7 @ 9.1:1 compression, with tons of block work such as Katechs oil squirters, mainline girdle and darton sleeves. The rotating assembly is a Callies DragonSlayer crank swinging Oliver billet rods and custom Arias pistons.The TVS will be making between 12 and 14 PSI of max PD boost, being driven by a custom LPE 10 rib front drive and a 50mm cogged rear drive. John Page of 21st Century Muscle cars completed a similar build late last year and made 750+ whp. So this should be a torque monster when its done.
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I personally have a A&A kit on my car and i love it.. Im making 580rwhp on my 2005 LS2.. Z51 pack as well..I will def look into long tube headers and an exhaust..Stock driveability and WOT its a beast.. There are some good used kits on sale on forum. Talk to andy he is the man..He knows corvettes back of his hands..
Racer
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St. Jude Donor '11
Well, it depends a LOT on what the guy is wanting and where he wants the power. A centri won't make the HUGE torque off idle as a Maggie or the Edelbrock kit. But a Maggie or Edelbrock won't make the top end rush a Centri will. For a daily driver guy that wants to "feel" power anytime he hits the throttle its tough to beat out a PD blower such as a Magnusson, Whipple or Edelbrock. The ECS kits are a bit better in the low end torque department because they spin theirs faster from the get go and use a restrictor plate. I hope to have my TVS2300 project in my car and running sometime around the end of May. It is a all forged LS7 @ 9.1:1 compression, with tons of block work such as Katechs oil squirters, mainline girdle and darton sleeves. The rotating assembly is a Callies DragonSlayer crank swinging Oliver billet rods and custom Arias pistons.The TVS will be making between 12 and 14 PSI of max PD boost, being driven by a custom LPE 10 rib front drive and a 50mm cogged rear drive. John Page of 21st Century Muscle cars completed a similar build late last year and made 750+ whp. So this should be a torque monster when its done.
You've made me crosseyed
just reading this...
Instructor
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Here is a 2 month old 07' Z51 A6 with the E Force to give some idea of where this will take you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-2Ogs0BmSM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-2Ogs0BmSM
Former Vendor
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My OPINION, would be two forget the whole callaway thing and save yourself a **** load of money.
Go with a centrifugal kit from either A&A or ECS, they are cheaper, will make more power, and have more room for future expandability if you feel the need for more power.
The blower will have ZERO effect on fuel consumption during normal driving conditions, actually with a good tune you will get better fuel milage then you currently do when your out of boost. Now when your beating her, she is gonna suck the fossils out of the ground, but thats to be expected.
A properly installed and tuned supercharger is perfectly safe and will damage nothing.
Go with a centrifugal kit from either A&A or ECS, they are cheaper, will make more power, and have more room for future expandability if you feel the need for more power.
The blower will have ZERO effect on fuel consumption during normal driving conditions, actually with a good tune you will get better fuel milage then you currently do when your out of boost. Now when your beating her, she is gonna suck the fossils out of the ground, but thats to be expected.
A properly installed and tuned supercharger is perfectly safe and will damage nothing.
I personally have a A&A kit on my car and i love it.. Im making 580rwhp on my 2005 LS2.. Z51 pack as well..I will def look into long tube headers and an exhaust..Stock driveability and WOT its a beast.. There are some good used kits on sale on forum. Talk to andy he is the man..He knows corvettes back of his hands..
Drifting
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From: Rockaway NJ
well im going to go ahead and give a different opinion...
you WILL get different mileage from a blower regardless of sitting in the boost or not... you need bigger injectors ... which will drop your mileage a bit .... secondly the maggie vs centri arguement.... everyone say oh i want it off the line etc etc.... dont forget you wont have any traction ...
I have 590rwhp/rwtq and 400lb of tq at 2.3k rpm... I cant imagine wanting any more then that.... I already have a useless first and second gear lol (and thats with new tires too)
you WILL get different mileage from a blower regardless of sitting in the boost or not... you need bigger injectors ... which will drop your mileage a bit .... secondly the maggie vs centri arguement.... everyone say oh i want it off the line etc etc.... dont forget you wont have any traction ...
I have 590rwhp/rwtq and 400lb of tq at 2.3k rpm... I cant imagine wanting any more then that.... I already have a useless first and second gear lol (and thats with new tires too)
Melting Slicks
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From: Houston 06 C6 Ysi SC 402 fgd TX
My OPINION, would be two forget the whole callaway thing and save yourself a **** load of money.
Go with a centrifugal kit from either A&A or ECS, they are cheaper, will make more power, and have more room for future expandability if you feel the need for more power.
The blower will have ZERO effect on fuel consumption during normal driving conditions, actually with a good tune you will get better fuel milage then you currently do when your out of boost. Now when your beating her, she is gonna suck the fossils out of the ground, but thats to be expected.
A properly installed and tuned supercharger is perfectly safe and will damage nothing.
Go with a centrifugal kit from either A&A or ECS, they are cheaper, will make more power, and have more room for future expandability if you feel the need for more power.
The blower will have ZERO effect on fuel consumption during normal driving conditions, actually with a good tune you will get better fuel milage then you currently do when your out of boost. Now when your beating her, she is gonna suck the fossils out of the ground, but thats to be expected.
A properly installed and tuned supercharger is perfectly safe and will damage nothing.
Former Vendor
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I am sorry your friend had issues with their car however, to be clear, it wasn't a Callaway Corvette, engineered, installed, and warrantied by Callaway Cars.
For more information, please visit our website @ www.callawaycars.com
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I just posted this on General Discussion, but probably should have come here first:
Folks, I'm thinking rather seriously about supercharging my '07 Z51 M6 (Callaway Magnacharger)but have some questions:
Assuming normal driving ( rather tame for me until it's time to hit the autobahn), what's the effect on fuel consumption ?
Callaway is claiming 100- 120 hp increase; can a stock 5656 tranny take that ??
One of the reasons I don't like a Z06 (blastphemy, I know) is because I can't take the roof off. That's because of that monster LS7 and it's torque.
Wouldn't this also be the case with my non Z06 framed Z51 ? Would I be in danger of overtorquing the frame / engine mounts ?
What say you ?
Danke
Folks, I'm thinking rather seriously about supercharging my '07 Z51 M6 (Callaway Magnacharger)but have some questions:
Assuming normal driving ( rather tame for me until it's time to hit the autobahn), what's the effect on fuel consumption ?
Callaway is claiming 100- 120 hp increase; can a stock 5656 tranny take that ??
One of the reasons I don't like a Z06 (blastphemy, I know) is because I can't take the roof off. That's because of that monster LS7 and it's torque.
Wouldn't this also be the case with my non Z06 framed Z51 ? Would I be in danger of overtorquing the frame / engine mounts ?
What say you ?
Danke
Get the roots blower...it gives you the power where you use it...on the street. IMO They also look better as well.
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One of the reasons I don't like a Z06 (blastphemy, I know) is because I can't take the roof off. That's because of that monster LS7 and it's torque.
Wouldn't this also be the case with my non Z06 framed Z51 ? Would I be in danger of overtorquing the frame / engine mounts ?
Wouldn't this also be the case with my non Z06 framed Z51 ? Would I be in danger of overtorquing the frame / engine mounts ?
The Z06 has a unique aluminum body structure for optimum stiffness and light weight for the fixed-roof bodystyle. Perimeter rails are one-piece hydroformed aluminum members featuring cast suspension nodes, which replace many welded steel components on other Corvette models
