2010 vs. 2011 paddle shifter
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2010 vs. 2011 paddle shifter
The 2011 automatic allows paddle shifts even in the Drive position whereas the 2011 only allowed it in the Sport position.
I presume that in the D mode, the 2011 would allow a paddle shift into 1st gear for a launch start and would then shift up at about red-line.
Can this software be downloaded to a 2010?
I presume that in the D mode, the 2011 would allow a paddle shift into 1st gear for a launch start and would then shift up at about red-line.
Can this software be downloaded to a 2010?
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I think you meant 2010 there?
Yes, redline or anywhere before that but once in paddle mode it won't shift at all unless the driver tells it (shifts it) to do so.
I believe it can be but I wouldn't count on the dealership to do it, might need a tuning shop with the latest HP Tuner/EFI Live updates to perform that one.
I believe it can be but I wouldn't count on the dealership to do it, might need a tuning shop with the latest HP Tuner/EFI Live updates to perform that one.
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I just downloaded the manual from chevrolet.com. It looks like your initial thoughts were correct. Section 9-30 explains that using the paddle in the D mode temporarily swithces it over to the S mode. This is just like placing it into S manually. For fast starts, it would work just like it was in S and would require a paddle shift into 2nd gear. Just like my 2010, holding the paddle in for over 2 seconds at the second gear shift would then have it revert to full automatic from then on.
There is still no perfect way to have full auto operation from 1st gear.
There is still no perfect way to have full auto operation from 1st gear.
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If that is what you're asking about.When driving if D or S and no paddle activation, the trans always starts in 1st gear. The starting in 2nd ONLY occurs when the paddles have been activated and you come to a stop......that's when you need to manually paddle down to 1st.
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Thanks for your answer.
I think they always start in 2nd in auto mode. They will promptly shift down to first on a fast start, but they still must do that downshift.
The 2011 owners manual taught me that this year differs from the 2010 but it will still not do a fully automatic 1st gear launch.
It seems the only way to do that is to use S mode, downshift into 1st, stomp it and promptly slide the shifter to the D mode (without going past into N).
I think they always start in 2nd in auto mode. They will promptly shift down to first on a fast start, but they still must do that downshift.
The 2011 owners manual taught me that this year differs from the 2010 but it will still not do a fully automatic 1st gear launch.
It seems the only way to do that is to use S mode, downshift into 1st, stomp it and promptly slide the shifter to the D mode (without going past into N).
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Thanks for your answer.
I think they always start in 2nd in auto mode. They will promptly shift down to first on a fast start, but they still must do that downshift.
The 2011 owners manual taught me that this year differs from the 2010 but it will still not do a fully automatic 1st gear launch.
It seems the only way to do that is to use S mode, downshift into 1st, stomp it and promptly slide the shifter to the D mode (without going past into N).
I think they always start in 2nd in auto mode. They will promptly shift down to first on a fast start, but they still must do that downshift.
The 2011 owners manual taught me that this year differs from the 2010 but it will still not do a fully automatic 1st gear launch.
It seems the only way to do that is to use S mode, downshift into 1st, stomp it and promptly slide the shifter to the D mode (without going past into N).
From a stop you will notice 1-2 shift at 8mph under light throttle. Count the shifts and you will see. The manual is worded in a way that confuses auto mode with paddle shift mode.
Believe me you would not be able to smoke your tires off from a standing start if it started in 2nd gear...which confirms it starts in 1st gear in auto mode
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Sorry that is not true! The car will start in 1st gear in auto mode (D or S) as long as you dont touch the paddles.
From a stop you will notice 1-2 shift at 8mph under light throttle. Count the shifts and you will see. The manual is worded in a way that confuses auto mode with paddle shift mode.
Believe me you would not be able to smoke your tires off from a standing start if it started in 2nd gear...which confirms it starts in 1st gear in auto mode.
From a stop you will notice 1-2 shift at 8mph under light throttle. Count the shifts and you will see. The manual is worded in a way that confuses auto mode with paddle shift mode.
Believe me you would not be able to smoke your tires off from a standing start if it started in 2nd gear...which confirms it starts in 1st gear in auto mode
.BTW, I shift to S and paddle to 2nd in order to do a burnout at the track and have higher tire speed without higher engine speed. So, yes you can smoke the tires with a 2nd gear start and TC off.
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The 2011 automatic allows paddle shifts even in the Drive position whereas the 2011 only allowed it in the Sport position.
I presume that in the D mode, the 2011 would allow a paddle shift into 1st gear for a launch start and would then shift up at about red-line.
Can this software be downloaded to a 2010?
I presume that in the D mode, the 2011 would allow a paddle shift into 1st gear for a launch start and would then shift up at about red-line.
Can this software be downloaded to a 2010?
I quit driving in S (without the paddles) because it was too easy to accidently bump a paddle when making a quick emergency manuever and be stuck in a gear unknowingly.
Having to de-activate paddles is not high on my priority list of requirements following an accident avoidance situation. By the time you recognize why you're still in 1st gear and do something to change it, you now become the new traffic liability.
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I'd like to add that if you activate the paddles (prior to 2011 cars), you must manually shift out of S-mode to de-activate them.
BTW, I shift to S and paddle to 2nd in order to do a burnout at the track and have higher tire speed without higher engine speed. So, yes you can smoke the tires with a 2nd gear start and TC off.
BTW, I shift to S and paddle to 2nd in order to do a burnout at the track and have higher tire speed without higher engine speed. So, yes you can smoke the tires with a 2nd gear start and TC off.
.I'm trying to not confuse the OP as our cars DO start off in 1st gear in auto mode. Also, from a standing start I cant drop the hammer and spin the tires starting off in 2nd gear...so you must have a beast under the hood
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Assuming the 2011 allows paddle activation in D, then it presents an additional issue.
I quit driving in S (without the paddles) because it was too easy to accidently bump a paddle when making a quick emergency manuever and be stuck in a gear unknowingly.
Having to de-activate paddles is not high on my priority list of requirements following an accident avoidance situation. By the time you recognize why you're still in 1st gear and do something to change it, you now become the new traffic liability.
I quit driving in S (without the paddles) because it was too easy to accidently bump a paddle when making a quick emergency manuever and be stuck in a gear unknowingly.
Having to de-activate paddles is not high on my priority list of requirements following an accident avoidance situation. By the time you recognize why you're still in 1st gear and do something to change it, you now become the new traffic liability.
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OK, I just tested the 2nd gear burnout with street tires and TC on. Very doable on several types of pavement. Just not at the track with drag radials.
Last edited by HOXXOH; May 10, 2011 at 10:20 PM. Reason: add info
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Thanks for your answer.
I think they always start in 2nd in auto mode. They will promptly shift down to first on a fast start, but they still must do that downshift.
The 2011 owners manual taught me that this year differs from the 2010 but it will still not do a fully automatic 1st gear launch.
It seems the only way to do that is to use S mode, downshift into 1st, stomp it and promptly slide the shifter to the D mode (without going past into N).
I think they always start in 2nd in auto mode. They will promptly shift down to first on a fast start, but they still must do that downshift.
The 2011 owners manual taught me that this year differs from the 2010 but it will still not do a fully automatic 1st gear launch.
It seems the only way to do that is to use S mode, downshift into 1st, stomp it and promptly slide the shifter to the D mode (without going past into N).
Just count how many times your car shifts...
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Has not been a problem for me in my 2011. If I accidentally hit the downshift paddle (which I have), the one-gear downshift from my current gear gets me usually to only around 2000 RPMs, leaving me lots of time to either upshift or hold down the upshift button for about a second, which reverts the transmission back to full automatic mode.
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My concern was the accidental shift during panic mode while slamming on the brakes and steering clear of traffic to avoid a collision. Maybe I'm just a slow thinker, but my mind is still stuck in panic while accelerating away from the scene and it takes a while to react to what the transmission has done. This has happened twice and it's very unsettling trying to quickly understand why I'm traveling slower than other traffic because the shift never happened. I now only use S-mode when I intentionally want to use the paddles.
I personally haven't found the paddles to be an issue if I accidentally engage them, but definitely see how difficult it is to try and brace against cornering forces with the relatively useless seat bolstering. Having to brace with the steering wheel and paddle shift is hard, but it's got to be harder trying to brace with the steering wheel and use a manual shift.
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A6 shift from 5th to 6th at WOT
I have a 2008 coupe A6, can anyone tell me if the trans will shift to
6th gear with wide open throttle. I have been told that at WOT the trans does not shift to 6th. My recent experience at the Mojave Mile the trans would not shift to 6th as long as I had it at WOT.
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Jerry
6th gear with wide open throttle. I have been told that at WOT the trans does not shift to 6th. My recent experience at the Mojave Mile the trans would not shift to 6th as long as I had it at WOT.
Thanks,
Jerry
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I have a 2008 coupe A6, can anyone tell me if the trans will shift to
6th gear with wide open throttle. I have been told that at WOT the trans does not shift to 6th. My recent experience at the Mojave Mile the trans would not shift to 6th as long as I had it at WOT.
Thanks,
Jerry
6th gear with wide open throttle. I have been told that at WOT the trans does not shift to 6th. My recent experience at the Mojave Mile the trans would not shift to 6th as long as I had it at WOT.
Thanks,
Jerry
Therefore, I don't think it would ever upshift to 6th under WOT unless you had put in a numerically higher rear axle that allowed the engine to rev more at a given speed.
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I've played around quite a bit with the paddle shifters and even in an insanely high gear like you might get by bumping the upshift button inadvertently, there's still enough low-RPM torque to accelerate at least as briskly as regular traffic. I guess if I'm emergency braking and trying to steer and I shift it, then make it past the accident scene, I'm honestly not sure what would happen - if the transmission downshifts once it reaches a low speed threshold even in paddle shift mode, or if it waits until the vehicle is totally stopped before making one shift down to either first or second gear for starting up from a stop. I'll test that later today.
I personally haven't found the paddles to be an issue if I accidentally engage them, but definitely see how difficult it is to try and brace against cornering forces with the relatively useless seat bolstering. Having to brace with the steering wheel and paddle shift is hard, but it's got to be harder trying to brace with the steering wheel and use a manual shift.
I personally haven't found the paddles to be an issue if I accidentally engage them, but definitely see how difficult it is to try and brace against cornering forces with the relatively useless seat bolstering. Having to brace with the steering wheel and paddle shift is hard, but it's got to be harder trying to brace with the steering wheel and use a manual shift.