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Old Jul 16, 2011 | 11:39 AM
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Ok my cam, dual springs, rods ... cam in yesterday, simply a hing of beauty. I have a decent size cam 232/238 620/612 112+4. I seen somewhere where it says if you have more than +2 you should up grade your chain. Do I have to do this with my LS2? and if so, where can I buy a good one? what brand would you guys go with? and what cost am I lookiing at?
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Originally Posted by 5clubLS2
Ok my cam, dual springs, rods ... cam in yesterday, simply a hing of beauty. I have a decent size cam 232/238 620/612 112+4. I seen somewhere where it says if you have more than +2 you should up grade your chain. Do I have to do this with my LS2? and if so, where can I buy a good one? what brand would you guys go with? and what cost am I lookiing at?
I'm sure you'll get all kinds of suggestions for aftermarket parts but for what it's worth, I've run even bigger cams on LS2, LS3 and LS7s using the stock chain and have never had any issues. In fact, the only part I ever change when doing a cam swap is the valve springs. Everything else such as pushrods, lifters, rocker arms etc is still stock.
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You will get a mixed bag of answers on this, but in my research I bought the Katech C5R racing chain. I read that they have never broken one in the history of their racing program. Also, at no other time will you have better access to the chain then during a cam swap. It was worth the peace of mind to me, but subfloor has tested his cars mechanical limits more than most of us and he says that he hasn't had problems. I think I remember that breaking timing chains are more of a concern in an M6, not so much in autos.

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Old Jul 16, 2011 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by taken19
You will get a mixed bag of answers on this, but in my research I bought the Katech C5R racing chain. I read that they have never broken one in the history of their racing program. Also, at no other time will you have better access to the chain then during a cam swap. It was worth the peace of mind to me, but subfloor has tested his cars mechanical limits more than most of us and he says that he hasn't had problems. I think I remember that breaking timing chains are more of a concern in an M6, not so much in autos.
My $.02
My oem chain was fine. But, I purchased/installed the C5R chain for cheap insurance since I was R&R the cam anyways.
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Old Jul 16, 2011 | 09:15 PM
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Chains should be put on ONCE if they are taken off, Replace with NEW.

Chains stretch slightly.
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Old Jul 16, 2011 | 10:31 PM
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For the $40 cost ($54 suggested) a replacement GM chain is cheap money. +4 is a lot of advance and more advance than is likely necessary to take up the slack in your chain. +2 is generally about right in my book. Do you have plans on degreeing it to see if that +4 was necessary?
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Old Jul 17, 2011 | 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by taken19
You will get a mixed bag of answers on this, but in my research I bought the Katech C5R racing chain. I read that they have never broken one in the history of their racing program. Also, at no other time will you have better access to the chain then during a cam swap. It was worth the peace of mind to me, but subfloor has tested his cars mechanical limits more than most of us and he says that he hasn't had problems. I think I remember that breaking timing chains are more of a concern in an M6, not so much in autos.

My $.02
I do have a M6, so maybe i need to look into this potential issue a bit more. Can you give me more info on the Katech C5R racing chain, price? good place to buy? or link?



Originally Posted by ITSGRAND
For the $40 cost ($54 suggested) a replacement GM chain is cheap money. +4 is a lot of advance and more advance than is likely necessary to take up the slack in your chain. +2 is generally about right in my book. Do you have plans on degreeing it to see if that +4 was necessary?
Im not sure of the process of degreeing, i just told them(Futral Motorsports) kind what I was looking for and he spec this cam for me and custom grind it. Can you educate me a bit more on how techs degree and the purpose?
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LS motors FYI don't use a under drive pulley
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Hinson motorsports has the C5-R chain. It costs about 3x more than the GM replacement, but it was worth the peace of mind to me. Especially if Corvette racing has had success with them. I have never heard or read a single bad comment about this chain.

http://hinsonsupercars.com/p-1220-ka...ing-chain.aspx
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Good looking cam grind, how many miles do you have on your car right now?

I had right at 40K miles when I did the swap so I went with the C5R chain as the cam I have is a touch more aggressive than yours and wanted the insurance as mentioned by taken19.

If you don't replace it while your that deep and something happens down the road you will kick yourself as the damage from a broken chain is a hell of allot more than $150. That was my logic.
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Old Jul 17, 2011 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Neumonic2002
Good looking cam grind, how many miles do you have on your car right now?

I had right at 40K miles when I did the swap so I went with the C5R chain as the cam I have is a touch more aggressive than yours and wanted the insurance as mentioned by taken19.

If you don't replace it while your that deep and something happens down the road you will kick yourself as the damage from a broken chain is a hell of allot more than $150. That was my logic.
I'm all for peace of mind and insurance, so I need help finding a adequate replacement. I will look into the c5r for sure. And mine has 37k so I'm thinking why not , even if I had a small cam just peace of mind. My issue is the +4: will I need adjustable chain or will c5r be able to handle extra degrees?
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Originally Posted by CMY SIX
LS motors FYI don't use a under drive pulley
Please explain?? Cause people buy 25% harmonic balance pulley all the time .
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