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Old Oct 2, 2011 | 08:48 PM
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I have an 05 LS2 just put on KOOKS headers, and want to go to better intake and eventually a cam (not to radical)

First I was told that a FAST 102 will not fit on an LS2 unless I also get new fuel rails.. and some other items..

I know with the old FAST 92 you had to modify the intake manifold etc..

What about the new 102 can I just bolt it up to my 2005 LS2 without changing or buying new fuel rails or any other parts..

I'm trying to keep within my budget..I got the KOOKS , next I would like to put on a FAST 102.. and in a few months when I get the $$ put in a cam.. (the car also has a CAI "Vararam")

I just didn't want to spend much more than the $800 the the FAST 102 will cost me.. .....Will I need any other parts besides the Intake itself???

I thought about porting the stock intake manifold, but was told the LS2 intake manifolds are pi** poor and not worth the time to port...

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The 102 will fit the ls2 without anything else. Fits great.

I've had mine for almost 2 years now. I have an 05 also
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Old Oct 2, 2011 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Tim05C6Z51
The 102 will fit the ls2 without anything else. Fits great.

I've had mine for almost 2 years now. I have an 05 also
Tim, Thank you for the quick response...I'm glad to hear I do NOT need a few hundred $$ more on top of the intake itself...
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Originally Posted by Tim05C6Z51
The 102 will fit the ls2 without anything else. Fits great.

I've had mine for almost 2 years now. I have an 05 also
So one definitely can use the stock LS2 fuel rails on the 102mm just like we did/do on the 90mm/92mm versions?
I know the 102 clears the cowl/firewall unlike the 90/92 which is great news.
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Old Oct 2, 2011 | 10:26 PM
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Yup 102 fits with zero firewall modifications like the 90/92 required, and uses factory rails and injectors. Installs in 1-2 hours.
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Old Oct 3, 2011 | 12:09 AM
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hey jpee, the 102 will fit an 05 ls2 with no problems other than the fuel rail covers will need some slight surgery........that being said, i picked up a few hp over a stock spinmonster ported one. but i picked up a ton of torque. had 419 ft.lbs. went up to 460 ft.lbs. with the 102.
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Originally Posted by cranky
that being said, i picked up a few hp over a stock spinmonster ported one. but i picked up a ton of torque. had 419 ft.lbs. went up to 460 ft.lbs. with the 102.
Nice....jpee only has a Vararam, the Kooks long tubes with catted X-pipe and tuning (and will be re-tuned as well) so I'm figuring he could possibly see upwards of 15+rwhp/20+rwtq from a stock/unported FAST 102mm.
I'd like to see him do a ported stock throttle body as well.
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Old Oct 3, 2011 | 10:47 AM
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I thought about porting the stock intake manifold, but was told the LS2 intake manifolds are pi** poor and not worth the time to port...
The FAST 102 is a great choice. However, if money becomes tight, you should understand that porting your LS2 stock manifold is a great option that many choose. You are right in that the LS2 stock manifold is poor. However, it is one of the manifolds that has the biggest gains from porting. The reason is that the factory sonic welds 3 pieces together to form the manifold. In that process, some of the pieces do not squarely match together, causing ridges and bumps that disrupt air flow. The porting process smooths all of those transitions.

Peak Speed Shop is a Supporting Vendor of the Corvette Forum. Our LS2 customers generally gain 9-13 rwhp from our Basic Porting and 15-20 rwhp from our Radical Porting. We charge just $250 for basic and $370 for radical. So, from a cost per horsepower standpoint, this is some of the best bang for the buck. For the difference between Basic and Radical porting, go to our web site at http://www.peakspeedshop.com/

We also port the FAST102 and our customers generally get an additional 12rwhp from the porting on an LS2 application.
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JPee, my buddy Bob Bearn, C6-13thPilotCar has a ported Fast 92 for sale. I was thinking of buying it, but, we're moving to Florida. So, that's off for now. I suggest you contact him. He has a Prod. Red 05 that turns in the 10's and he said that intake gives you an honest ( Dyno confirmed) 20 hp.

Go for it. Then you'll finally be quicker than me!!
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Originally Posted by Mike Campbell
JPee, my buddy Bob Bearn, C6-13thPilotCar has a ported Fast 92 for sale. I was thinking of buying it, but, we're moving to Florida. So, that's off for now. I suggest you contact him. He has a Prod. Red 05 that turns in the 10's and he said that intake gives you an honest ( Dyno confirmed) 20 hp.

Go for it. Then you'll finally be quicker than me!!
The 92mm might be far better suited to John's combo anyway. The only thing is, how did Bob get it to fit, did he alter the manifold itself or did he cut the cowl/firewall for clearance?
I know John would rather not do either one but if the price is right...

Enjoy life in Florida Mike, we'll miss ya at the E-town Corvette Challenge events.
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 08:54 AM
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LS1LT1:Enjoy life in Florida Mike, we'll miss ya at the E-town Corvette Challenge events.
Yep, I'll miss the Challenge too! However, I do plan on going to Bradenton and Moroso. We'll be about equal distance between them both. Actually, they're also about the same distance I go to Englishtown or Atco now. Just I doubt I'll ever turn as well there or see any DA's like we did at E-Town. Most of all I'll miss the friends I made at the Challenge.

By the way, Bob's intake had been modified so it would fit right on.
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by peakspeedshop
The FAST 102 is a great choice. However, if money becomes tight, you should understand that porting your LS2 stock manifold is a great option that many choose. You are right in that the LS2 stock manifold is poor. However, it is one of the manifolds that has the biggest gains from porting. The reason is that the factory sonic welds 3 pieces together to form the manifold. In that process, some of the pieces do not squarely match together, causing ridges and bumps that disrupt air flow. The porting process smooths all of those transitions.

Peak Speed Shop is a Supporting Vendor of the Corvette Forum. Our LS2 customers generally gain 9-13 rwhp from our Basic Porting and 15-20 rwhp from our Radical Porting. We charge just $250 for basic and $370 for radical. So, from a cost per horsepower standpoint, this is some of the best bang for the buck. For the difference between Basic and Radical porting, go to our web site at http://www.peakspeedshop.com/

We also port the FAST102 and our customers generally get an additional 12rwhp from the porting on an LS2 application.
Your Radical+ TB-- vs-- unported stock Fast, stk TB----what's the difference in H.P. & TQ some say--the Fast will give double mid range vs your recipe---??? THANKS !!!
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Originally Posted by peakspeedshop
The FAST 102 is a great choice. However, if money becomes tight, you should understand that porting your LS2 stock manifold is a great option that many choose. You are right in that the LS2 stock manifold is poor. However, it is one of the manifolds that has the biggest gains from porting. The reason is that the factory sonic welds 3 pieces together to form the manifold. In that process, some of the pieces do not squarely match together, causing ridges and bumps that disrupt air flow. The porting process smooths all of those transitions.

Peak Speed Shop is a Supporting Vendor of the Corvette Forum. Our LS2 customers generally gain 9-13 rwhp from our Basic Porting and 15-20 rwhp from our Radical Porting. We charge just $250 for basic and $370 for radical. So, from a cost per horsepower standpoint, this is some of the best bang for the buck. For the difference between Basic and Radical porting, go to our web site at http://www.peakspeedshop.com/

We also port the FAST102 and our customers generally get an additional 12rwhp from the porting on an LS2 application.
Good info, thanks!
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Originally Posted by musicman2
Your Radical+ TB-- vs-- unported stock Fast, stk TB----what's the difference in H.P. & TQ some say--the Fast will give double mid range vs your recipe---??? THANKS !!!
The FAST with stock LS2 Throttle Body generally gains around 28 rwhp / 24 rwtq over the stock LS2 setup. I've seen some numbers that were even higher.

Our Radical porting of the LS2 intake manifold with stock LS2 throttle body generally gains 15-20 rwhp / 17-22 rwtq. An increase in rwhp is seen throughout the curve, however, the greatest increase is between 4,500 and 5,500 rpm's.

As I mentioned earlier, the FAST is a great way to go. However, for the budget minded.... if you compare cost per horsepower gain the radical porting looks pretty good:
FAST @ $830 = $29.64 per hp
Radical @ $370 = $19.50 per hp

By the way, when we port an intake manifold, we charge just $75 to also port the throttle body. Customers find it not only adds a few more hp, but are especially please with a crisper throttle response.
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Originally Posted by peakspeedshop
The FAST with stock LS2 Throttle Body generally gains around 28 rwhp / 24 rwtq over the stock LS2 setup. I've seen some numbers that were even higher.
Question?? Is it necessary to get a tune when installing the fast 102 on an LS2? My only current performance mod is a Z06 exhaust system (Manifolds to mufflers). I would like to avoid a tune if at all possible. I do realize that I will be leaving some HP on the table. What do you suppose the gains are without a tune and is it safe to install a FAST 102 without a tune?

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Question?? Is it necessary to get a tune when installing the fast 102 on an LS2? My only current performance mod is a Z06 exhaust system (Manifolds to mufflers). I would like to avoid a tune if at all possible. I do realize that I will be leaving some HP on the table. What do you suppose the gains are without a tune and is it safe to install a FAST 102 without a tune?

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You should get a tune if you install a FAST manifold or have your stock manifold ported. These mods affect your air/fuel ratio and could have adverse affects on your engine if it is not retuned.
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Originally Posted by peakspeedshop
You should get a tune if you install a FAST manifold or have your stock manifold ported. These mods affect your air/fuel ratio and could have adverse affects on your engine if it is not retuned.
I realize that manifolds cause changes in air to fuel ratios. I also know that and engine's electronics can compensate for some mods, just didn't know if doing a manifold requires a tune. For me there are warranty concerns to consider if contemplating a tune.

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Originally Posted by 1fastbob
I realize that manifolds cause changes in air to fuel ratios. I also know that and engine's electronics can compensate for some mods, just didn't know if doing a manifold requires a tune. For me there are warranty concerns to consider if contemplating a tune.

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You have warranty problems once you install the Fast.
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