Cam Install
Le Mans Master
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St. Jude Donor '11-'12-'13-'14
I had a similar experience. I actually had to cut one of the clamps and reconnect one of the P/S lines with a hose clamp because I really couldn't muster up the strength to redo it.
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Yep Bruce. I would guess, on a first attempt, a good number of people get the rack back in then go to route that one hard line and get really pi$$ed when it refuses to cooperate. I spent probably 30min cussing and wrestling with it then just caved-in and slid the rack back over some. 
I'm surprised someone hasn't fabbed-up some easy connect fittings/hoses for the whole power steering/steering rack cluster-f@*#.
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My 2 cents
If you've been running Nos for a little while, it may be preferrable to pull the heads. Your head gaskets may be starting to melt/burn up due to the extra heat caused by nitrous use. You may also want to get a look at your cylinder walls and pistons tops to see if there is any indication of abnormal wear/damage.
If I remeber correctly, an Ls2's compression ratio is already too high making it necessary to run lower timing, (depending on your fuel). If you wanna kick things up a notch, go with some ls3 heads and an intake. They flow much better than ls2 heads and they're pretty cheap, (less then 1k new GM complete for the heads and ls3 intakes with injs and rails are plentyful due to SC upgrades). You could then sell your old parts to someone with an ls1 and offset the cost a bit. In my opinion, not changing/upgrading the oil pump = penny wise and dollar foolish. You're going to have it apart. Take your time an do it right in one shot. Doing it right takes money, time, and experience.
Doing it wrong or skimping costs much more money and takes much more time in the long run.
Oops! Too late! I see you've started already...Good luck!
If I remeber correctly, an Ls2's compression ratio is already too high making it necessary to run lower timing, (depending on your fuel). If you wanna kick things up a notch, go with some ls3 heads and an intake. They flow much better than ls2 heads and they're pretty cheap, (less then 1k new GM complete for the heads and ls3 intakes with injs and rails are plentyful due to SC upgrades). You could then sell your old parts to someone with an ls1 and offset the cost a bit. In my opinion, not changing/upgrading the oil pump = penny wise and dollar foolish. You're going to have it apart. Take your time an do it right in one shot. Doing it right takes money, time, and experience.
Doing it wrong or skimping costs much more money and takes much more time in the long run.
Oops! Too late! I see you've started already...Good luck!
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From: Friendswood TX
If you've been running Nos for a little while, it may be preferrable to pull the heads. Your head gaskets may be starting to melt/burn up due to the extra heat caused by nitrous use. You may also want to get a look at your cylinder walls and pistons tops to see if there is any indication of abnormal wear/damage.
If I remeber correctly, an Ls2's compression ratio is already too high making it necessary to run lower timing, (depending on your fuel). If you wanna kick things up a notch, go with some ls3 heads and an intake. They flow much better than ls2 heads and they're pretty cheap, (less then 1k new GM complete for the heads and ls3 intakes with injs and rails are plentyful due to SC upgrades). You could then sell your old parts to someone with an ls1 and offset the cost a bit. In my opinion, not changing/upgrading the oil pump = penny wise and dollar foolish. You're going to have it apart. Take your time an do it right in one shot. Doing it right takes money, time, and experience.
Doing it wrong or skimping costs much more money and takes much more time in the long run.
Oops! Too late! I see you've started already...Good luck!
If I remeber correctly, an Ls2's compression ratio is already too high making it necessary to run lower timing, (depending on your fuel). If you wanna kick things up a notch, go with some ls3 heads and an intake. They flow much better than ls2 heads and they're pretty cheap, (less then 1k new GM complete for the heads and ls3 intakes with injs and rails are plentyful due to SC upgrades). You could then sell your old parts to someone with an ls1 and offset the cost a bit. In my opinion, not changing/upgrading the oil pump = penny wise and dollar foolish. You're going to have it apart. Take your time an do it right in one shot. Doing it right takes money, time, and experience.
Doing it wrong or skimping costs much more money and takes much more time in the long run.
Oops! Too late! I see you've started already...Good luck!
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well we got it done last night and was tuning till close to 6am today. only real problems i had was the oil lines in the radiator poping out which was my fault. i pushed them in just enough to hear a little pop. well you need to push them in tilll you hear a good pop!.
and i have a ratttle i can't find. it sounds like exhaust but i didn't touch it. unless i dropped a tool in there somewhere. i will trace that down over the next few days!
and i have a ratttle i can't find. it sounds like exhaust but i didn't touch it. unless i dropped a tool in there somewhere. i will trace that down over the next few days!
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Racer
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From: Friendswood TX
my buddy bobby from clear lake speed tuned it that night on the street to get it to run for the toys for tots cruise then he finished it last night on the street. its running good. i have never had a cammed car so it feels strange. it has a little buck below 1500 rpms but not much. it like you think you felt a buck but your not sure lol at 70 in 6th gear it sounded and felt stock with billy boat bullets.
i will get numbers next maybe.
only problem left is a rattle! my job for this week. im off the rest of the year
i will get numbers next maybe.
only problem left is a rattle! my job for this week. im off the rest of the year
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St. Jude Donor '11-'12-'13-'14
I don't know if any medium to large cam will be 'surge-less', I think most just learn to deal with it. I think my car drives excellent but at will, I can go to 5th or 6th gear and if the rpms are 1450-1550 and the pedal is at 0-10%, the car doesn't like it. It's nothing major, and the car isn't undriveable, but you do notice it. I think you do learn to drive in a way that minimizes it from happening. To me, it's a very small price to pay for a 75hp gain and a 10 second car LS3.
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my buddy bobby from clear lake speed tuned it that night on the street to get it to run for the toys for tots cruise then he finished it last night on the street. its running good. i have never had a cammed car so it feels strange. it has a little buck below 1500 rpms but not much. it like you think you felt a buck but your not sure lol at 70 in 6th gear it sounded and felt stock with billy boat bullets.
i will get numbers next maybe.
only problem left is a rattle! my job for this week. im off the rest of the year
i will get numbers next maybe.
only problem left is a rattle! my job for this week. im off the rest of the year
http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36894
This might be a way to smooth out the bucking.
BJK
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I don't know if any medium to large cam will be 'surge-less', I think most just learn to deal with it. I think my car drives excellent but at will, I can go to 5th or 6th gear and if the rpms are 1450-1550 and the pedal is at 0-10%, the car doesn't like it. It's nothing major, and the car isn't undriveable, but you do notice it. I think you do learn to drive in a way that minimizes it from happening. To me, it's a very small price to pay for a 75hp gain and a 10 second car LS3.
he tunes with hp tuners.
also its really loud with the bullets. i may have to put the stock exhaust back on or see about trading for something different.
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Nice to meet you the other day....glad you got it all put together!
Gears would help low-rpm issues if you're still running stock gears. Gets you through the lazy spots a lot quicker.
Gears would help low-rpm issues if you're still running stock gears. Gets you through the lazy spots a lot quicker.
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yeah and thanks again for bringing me the parts!
i must have did good on reading everything on here because i didn't have to make any auto parts trips.
so am i the only one not 100% sure i got all the hoses and lines routed like it was when i started?
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St. Jude Donor '11-'12-'13-'14
When all is said and done, I don't think you should have to struggle with the P/S line routing. If done correctly, it should just fit together. I think you'd have to make an effort to do it incorrectly, assuming you kept all the connections, slip fittings etc.
