taken19

Not good to hear. I bought my current PS2's and think they may be heat cycled out. When warn they grip great in a straight line or corner, but do not do well when I ask them to hold a hard corner while accelerating. My last track event I also felt them get greasy, but that could be to pressure being too high.

FloydSummerOf68

Honestly I don't know...you'd have to ask someone smarter than me which is the best of the three for a track day.

taken19

Thanks.

Anybody have an opinion for track only? R-S3, RE-11 or Kuhmo XS?

FloydSummerOf68

FWIW, in the tests I've seen the Khumo XS is always the quickest, but I've only seen 2-3 different tests.

DSOMC6

For a track only tire Hoosiers R6 is about the best tire. These things grip like mad.

taken19

I have considered them but hear that they will harden due to heat cycles unlike the A6. Also, I'm not sure I want a true R compound quite yet as I am still learning my abilities as a driver and don't want a false sense of security.

I know that the R compound and better tires to not verbally communicate with he driver as well as good street tires. Until I get into the advanced group I will stay with a sticky street tire. Plus, engine oiling issues shouldn't come up this way - not ready to pay for a dry sump step yet.

TMyers

R888 for a track only tire. Stickier than the tire listed but still get good tread life out of them compared to an A6 or an R6. And you can drive them back and forth to the track. I have mine on for almost 2 months every summer.

taken19

How do they feel after a few heat cycles? It looks like you can buy 18" scrubs with 3-4 heat cycles on them for less than half the price of new ones.

TMyers

I did 7 autocrosses plus 2 track days, nine 20 minute sessions and they where still sticky. It will be interesting to see how they are at the start of this season after setting all winter

6Speeder

I believe the scrubs you usually find have been shaved down to the wear bars, so over half the usable rubber is gone before you get them.

acrc6

so from what I've read, it looks like the RE-11 seems to be the better overall tire.

From a dig or 1st gear roll, would the RE-11 or XS be better?

TMyers

From everything I read the RE-11 provides better acceleration but nothing beats the XS for lateral grip. You can read the Tirerack test here:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=118

Bill Dearborn

See if you can look up the tests done by Grass Roots Motorsports last year. They tested the XSs and 5 or 6 other tires on an autocross course and on a track. Here is the link to the tests:
http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/articles/top-tires/

Bill

erniepr

Would you recomend the R888´s for a dalily driver (knowing that if it rains I´ll have to drive like a grandparent)?
I almost never go to tre track, but I need them to handle 600 RWHP, my problem is I´d like to travel with them to nearby cities (maybe 100 hundred miles away) is there ok to use the in highways?

TorontoC6

I just retired a set of RE-11's (265/305) after 2 years, 16 track days (includes Watkins Glen, Mosport, Mont Tremblant) and 16,000 street kms's (10,000 miles). They are finally heat cycled out but still have some tread left - I could probably do another 2,000 street miles to get down to the wear bars. In the last two sessions, I could feel them getting greasy and afterwards the data from the traqmate confirmed my suspicions that their grip was reduced (tire pressure was constant, track temps had increased but it was not hot,~75f).

Prior to retirement I was getting peak g's of 1.35g's with sustained of 1.1g to 1.2g (data measured by Traqmate). They are very good tires and I was very impressed (at Mosport I was chasing down a Porsche GT3 on Michelin cups driven by a very good driver). I can post a video if you are interested.

I have a new set of RS-3's (also 265/305) and will be taking those to Mosport next week. I also have some R6's and will be using those as well. I bought the RS-3's to try something different even though I loved the RE-11's.

I will compare the data from the new RS-3's against the RE-11's. Seeing as the RS-3's are new and not shaved, they will be at a disadvantage.

taken19

TorontoC6,

I woul be very interested in the data from the RS-3's. I just finishing up a motor swap to (upgraded) dry sump LS3 and want to do a day or 2 on the existing tires to capture a baseline. During the more swap, I snuck in pFadt poly bushings and DRM custom Bilstiens.

Neumonic2002

I would like to see that video as I'm sure so would several others

I am going with the RE-11's, I do not have two sets of wheels and tires so they will be stock sizing for my DD..

Crowhater

I have run two sets of R888 on my car and I love them and yes I have driven in the rain with them more than once. Once they get hot they stick like glue and really add to the cars performance. This said I just changed over on Monday to Nitto NT555 tires up front and I am very happy with their performance. The Toyo R888 are a great tire but they do wear pretty quick. Out back I like to Toyo TQ proxy drag radial. My next set of back tires will be the Nitto NT05. I was happy with the TQ but they wear pretty fast also. On the street it does not matter what I run the car will still send them up in smoke. So now I am just going to run a 300 tread wear up front and a 200 in the rear. When I go to the track I will change her shoes over to my Hoosiers.

TorontoC6

Ok, will share the data next week. Cheers to you for a good write up on the LS-3 dry sump conversion. You got me thinking...

Also, good move on the pfadt poly bushings. They were the first suspension mod that I did (Z51 package). They give a noticeable better feel in the corners. I was thinking about the DRM Bilsteins as there is lots of positive feedback but I went all in and got the LG G2 coilovers and G1 sways. The springs are stiff but the shocks are not overly harsh even with the poly bushings.

TorontoC6

Here's the video from Mosport last Friday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ppDKfsVL2o