Rs-3 or r888
Track Junky
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Not good to hear. I bought my current PS2's and think they may be heat cycled out. When warn they grip great in a straight line or corner, but do not do well when I ask them to hold a hard corner while accelerating. My last track event I also felt them get greasy, but that could be to pressure being too high.
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These will be track only tires. I have the runflats on my other rims for now. As soon as I can outgrow these next tires, I will move on to an R compound or A6's. For now I want something that is within my driving capability while keeping the motor from oil starvation on high G corners.
Already looking into an Accusump
Floyd, in your opinion, which of the three you listed would be best for the track without heat cycling out?
Already looking into an Accusump
Floyd, in your opinion, which of the three you listed would be best for the track without heat cycling out?
Track Junky
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I know that the R compound and better tires to not verbally communicate with he driver as well as good street tires. Until I get into the advanced group I will stay with a sticky street tire. Plus, engine oiling issues shouldn't come up this way - not ready to pay for a dry sump step yet.
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R888 for a track only tire. Stickier than the tire listed but still get good tread life out of them compared to an A6 or an R6. And you can drive them back and forth to the track. I have mine on for almost 2 months every summer.
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Track Junky
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How do they feel after a few heat cycles? It looks like you can buy 18" scrubs with 3-4 heat cycles on them for less than half the price of new ones.
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I believe the scrubs you usually find have been shaved down to the wear bars, so over half the usable rubber is gone before you get them.
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http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=118
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From everything I read the RE-11 provides better acceleration but nothing beats the XS for lateral grip. You can read the Tirerack test here:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=118
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=118
http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/articles/top-tires/
Bill
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Would you recomend the R888´s for a dalily driver (knowing that if it rains I´ll have to drive like a grandparent)?
I almost never go to tre track, but I need them to handle 600 RWHP, my problem is I´d like to travel with them to nearby cities (maybe 100 hundred miles away) is there ok to use the in highways?
I almost never go to tre track, but I need them to handle 600 RWHP, my problem is I´d like to travel with them to nearby cities (maybe 100 hundred miles away) is there ok to use the in highways?
Racer
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From: Toronto Ontario
Prior to retirement I was getting peak g's of 1.35g's with sustained of 1.1g to 1.2g (data measured by Traqmate). They are very good tires and I was very impressed (at Mosport I was chasing down a Porsche GT3 on Michelin cups driven by a very good driver). I can post a video if you are interested.
I have a new set of RS-3's (also 265/305) and will be taking those to Mosport next week. I also have some R6's and will be using those as well. I bought the RS-3's to try something different even though I loved the RE-11's.
I will compare the data from the new RS-3's against the RE-11's. Seeing as the RS-3's are new and not shaved, they will be at a disadvantage.
Track Junky
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TorontoC6,
I woul be very interested in the data from the RS-3's. I just finishing up a motor swap to (upgraded) dry sump LS3 and want to do a day or 2 on the existing tires to capture a baseline. During the more swap, I snuck in pFadt poly bushings and DRM custom Bilstiens.
I woul be very interested in the data from the RS-3's. I just finishing up a motor swap to (upgraded) dry sump LS3 and want to do a day or 2 on the existing tires to capture a baseline. During the more swap, I snuck in pFadt poly bushings and DRM custom Bilstiens.
Drifting
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I just retired a set of RE-11's (265/305) after 2 years, 16 track days (includes Watkins Glen, Mosport, Mont Tremblant) and 16,000 street kms's (10,000 miles). They are finally heat cycled out but still have some tread left - I could probably do another 2,000 street miles to get down to the wear bars. In the last two sessions, I could feel them getting greasy and afterwards the data from the traqmate confirmed my suspicions that their grip was reduced (tire pressure was constant, track temps had increased but it was not hot,~75f).
Prior to retirement I was getting peak g's of 1.35g's with sustained of 1.1g to 1.2g (data measured by Traqmate). They are very good tires and I was very impressed (at Mosport I was chasing down a Porsche GT3 on Michelin cups driven by a very good driver). I can post a video if you are interested.
I have a new set of RS-3's (also 265/305) and will be taking those to Mosport next week. I also have some R6's and will be using those as well. I bought the RS-3's to try something different even though I loved the RE-11's.
I will compare the data from the new RS-3's against the RE-11's. Seeing as the RS-3's are new and not shaved, they will be at a disadvantage.
Prior to retirement I was getting peak g's of 1.35g's with sustained of 1.1g to 1.2g (data measured by Traqmate). They are very good tires and I was very impressed (at Mosport I was chasing down a Porsche GT3 on Michelin cups driven by a very good driver). I can post a video if you are interested.
I have a new set of RS-3's (also 265/305) and will be taking those to Mosport next week. I also have some R6's and will be using those as well. I bought the RS-3's to try something different even though I loved the RE-11's.
I will compare the data from the new RS-3's against the RE-11's. Seeing as the RS-3's are new and not shaved, they will be at a disadvantage.
I am going with the RE-11's, I do not have two sets of wheels and tires so they will be stock sizing for my DD..
Drifting
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I have run two sets of R888 on my car and I love them and yes I have driven in the rain with them more than once. Once they get hot they stick like glue and really add to the cars performance. This said I just changed over on Monday to Nitto NT555 tires up front and I am very happy with their performance. The Toyo R888 are a great tire but they do wear pretty quick. Out back I like to Toyo TQ proxy drag radial. My next set of back tires will be the Nitto NT05. I was happy with the TQ but they wear pretty fast also. On the street it does not matter what I run the car will still send them up in smoke. So now I am just going to run a 300 tread wear up front and a 200 in the rear. When I go to the track I will change her shoes over to my Hoosiers.
Racer
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From: Toronto Ontario
TorontoC6,
I would be very interested in the data from the RS-3's. I just finishing up a motor swap to (upgraded) dry sump LS3 and want to do a day or 2 on the existing tires to capture a baseline. During the more swap, I snuck in pFadt poly bushings and DRM custom Bilstiens.
I would be very interested in the data from the RS-3's. I just finishing up a motor swap to (upgraded) dry sump LS3 and want to do a day or 2 on the existing tires to capture a baseline. During the more swap, I snuck in pFadt poly bushings and DRM custom Bilstiens.
Also, good move on the pfadt poly bushings. They were the first suspension mod that I did (Z51 package). They give a noticeable better feel in the corners. I was thinking about the DRM Bilsteins as there is lots of positive feedback but I went all in and got the LG G2 coilovers and G1 sways. The springs are stiff but the shocks are not overly harsh even with the poly bushings.
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