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Old Oct 8, 2012 | 09:11 AM
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Hello there,

I am looking to switch over to e85 here within the next week.

I picked up some 60# injectors and plan on running them with a speedinc fuel rail. My current mods are l92 heads, fast102, englandgreen mayhem2 cam, and billyboat heads and bullets.

What kind of plugs should I run on this setup? What should I run the gap at?

Also, will the stock pump be able to keep up with the injectors or should I look into a KB BAP?

Car is a 06 z51
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Originally Posted by staticki
Hello there,

I am looking to switch over to e85 here within the next week.

I picked up some 60# injectors and plan on running them with a speedinc fuel rail. My current mods are l92 heads, fast102, englandgreen mayhem2 cam, and billyboat heads and bullets.

What kind of plugs should I run on this setup? What should I run the gap at?

Also, will the stock pump be able to keep up with the injectors or should I look into a KB BAP?

Car is a 06 z51
All good questions for your tuner. You WILL NOT be able to run E85 safely until your's tune is changed for it. There are a few values that need to be changed so the car will run right and now throw codes. Plus when you add those injectors, the car will for sure not run right without a tune.
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All good questions for your tuner. You WILL NOT be able to run E85 safely until your's tune is changed for it. There are a few values that need to be changed so the car will run right and now throw codes. Plus when you add those injectors, the car will for sure not run right without a tune.
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I plan on getting it tuned. I am going to throw the plugs, injectors and rail in in their parking lot so I don't drown the pistons in fuel.
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I plan on getting it tuned. I am going to throw the plugs, injectors and rail in in their parking lot so I don't drown the pistons in fuel.
When I do mine here in a few days, Im going to run my car down to almost empty. Then pickup my tuner and head to the gas station. Hes going to download the driving tune when Im filling up at the pump. Then we will head back to his dyno so he can fine tune it and make some pulls. My car is stock, so all Im doing is just the tune for E85. I shouldnt need anything else until I get more mods.
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To both of you, please post up your results with graphs if possible. I've been considering E85 for the track for a couple months now and would like more data pouts with respect to injector size / duty cycle, timing advance and Hp gains
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To both of you, please post up your results with graphs if possible. I've been considering E85 for the track for a couple months now and would like more data pouts with respect to injector size / duty cycle, timing advance and Hp gains
In the mean time, here is some great reading from another member with a stock LS3 mn6.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...e-ls3-mnl.html
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Originally Posted by C6RaceCar
In the mean time, here is some great reading from another member with a stock LS3 mn6.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...e-ls3-mnl.html
I've spoken to him on a couple occasions, good reading! I would like more data points like that.
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I plan on going e85 in my 06 as well...I don't know of the stock ls2 pump is gonna be enough though...keep us updated!!
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I plan on going e85 in my 06 as well...I don't know of the stock ls2 pump is gonna be enough though...keep us updated!!
for your ls2.

http://www.vetteweb.com/tech/vemp_08...n/viewall.html
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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 12:28 AM
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Ttt if anyone has any recommendations
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Old Oct 17, 2012 | 11:34 AM
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Just dropped the car off this morning.

**crosses fingers for over 500hp**
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Can't wait for results. I really want to see how the stock pump holds up.
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I am running TR6's, swapped injectors at the shop and drained out the 93 octane and added e85. Picked up 22 rwhp on a stingy Mustang dyno. Now have an A&A blower installed and am suppose to be back on the dyno again tomorrow. I think you'll like the E85, it smoothed my whole engine tune out.
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Originally Posted by Kerrdogg
I am running TR6's, swapped injectors at the shop and drained out the 93 octane and added e85. Picked up 22 rwhp on a stingy Mustang dyno. Now have an A&A blower installed and am suppose to be back on the dyno again tomorrow. I think you'll like the E85, it smoothed my whole engine tune out.
You should run the LS7/9 plugs. Better quality and they are iridium.
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Cam, Headers, Ported intake, TB, Cold air, Z06 exhaust. Made 465 on the Mustang dyno I use for tuning, would have shown right around 485-490 on my friends Dyno Jet.
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Originally Posted by staticki
Where you complete stock prior to the e85?

I picked up right over 20hp, but that was with intake and ported tb. I venture to say I only got 5-10hp from the e85 itself.
Can you post up the graph and speak to differences in timing and AFR between E85 and your previous tune?
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Here you go
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Gains look consistent throughout the entire power band. You said this is E85, IM and ported TB? Which intake did you get? Also, it looks like the AFR in the Blue (E85 run) was WAY low - 8.06). I'm sure that's not correct... do you know what the timing and AFR was on the E85 run?
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Gains look consistent throughout the entire power band. You said this is E85, IM and ported TB? Which intake did you get? Also, it looks like the AFR in the Blue (E85 run) was WAY low - 8.06). I'm sure that's not correct... do you know what the timing and AFR was on the E85 run?
Intake, not IM.
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Intake, not IM.
Ok, got it.

Any idea why the second run shows 8.06 AFR? If that's anywhere close to actual, there's still 20 rwhp left on the table! 12.4-12.7 seems to be the norm with these motors.
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