I'm getting my brakes replaced next week (2010 GS). I'm told the pins that hold the pads must be replaced every time,,, at $230 or so..

True?

I do HPDEs so I'm not going to cheap out on brakes but if it isn't necessary,,,,,,,

Thanks

 

NOT TRUE!!!!

If you're getting a new set of OE pads, they come with new pad pin bolts - in which case I'll take your old ones!!

However, if you're going with some aftermarket pads you definitely do not need to replace the bolts at every pad swap.

My 2006 Z06 has 45,000 miles on it, and about 4,500 are track miles. I recently put on a new set of calipers off a GS, but until then my old calipers were running the original bolts.

Here are my old calipers that I just recently sold. You can see that the pad pin bolts in the first couple years of Z06 calipers required an Allen wrench, whereas yours require a T-45 Torx bit.




My old calipers had many, many pad swaps. They went through a lot of track pads, and then back to street pads between track events.

I removed the pad pin bolts a couple time to replace pads while the calipers remained on the car, but it's much easier to just remove the calipers to replace pads.




If you're going with one-piece pads instead of padlets, then you'll definitely need to remove the calipers!! Here's a one-piece in one of my new calipers:




Good luck with the pad swap, but it's a very easy job!!

Bob

 

I put AC Delco ceramics on mine and they did not come with caliper pins. The old ones are fine except one of mine was frozen. It wasnt greased properly by whoever did the brakes before. I got a set of 2 new pins from pep boys for $6. $230 is far beyond rip off.

 

I edited my post and added some pictures of Z06/GS calipers. You can see the pad pin bolt heads on the sides of the calipers. Here's a GS front caliper with the two center bolts removed, and the top and bottom bolts are in place:




Here are some on the inside of the caliper where they where they hold the padlets in place and allow them to slide in and out with piston activation:




Your avatar shows a base C6, and the caliper "pins" on them are entirely different from the pad pin bolts on the PBR Z06/GS calipers.

GM charges something like $10 per bolt!!! And there are a 8 pad pin bolts in each front caliper, and 6 in each rear - total of 28 bolts.

There are some good aftermarket ones available with 10mm hex heads for about $230 for a set of 28.

Bob

 

Yeah, after I posted I reread the op and realized it was a different system.

 

This photo def shows the pins. He showed them to me once when he was talking about another brake replacement. Price adds up too. BUT, if I don't need them ill tell him to skip them. The car has about 10k miles on it. The stock pads lasted one track day. I'll be going with Hawk HPS this time.

Thanks,

 

Well, HPS is a good street pad, but not what you want for the track.

I'd recommend you run something like Hawk HPS or Carbotech 1521 Bobcats for the street, and swap to Hawk DTC70 or 60, or Carbotech XP12 or 10 for the track.

The aggressiveness of your track pads has to match the stickiness of your tires, so what tires are you running on the track?

There's no such thing as a pad that will work properly for both situations.

The more important thing is to make sure you flush in a good high boiling point DOT 4 fluid into your brake system.

If you need a set of HPS pads, I have some ill sell:







They look brand new (you can see they look to be "new" thickness), but there are round piston marks on the backing plates like somebody mounted them up for a very short time.

The fronts are one-piece, and the rears are padlets.

$240 shipped to your door.

Actually, you should drive over to my house in Daytona and we'll put those bad boys on your car and flush in some DOT 4 fluid. The pads will go for $220 if I don't have to ship them, and we can get some good Motul RBF 600 from the motorcycle shop I get it at over here for about $18 per 500ml bottle, and well need 2 bottles.

So drive on over and well get you new pads and fluid for around $250.

I hope whoever you're working with in Tampa isn't too much more than that!!

Bob

 

I wish I had time to drive over. Always looking for a reason I'm signed up for Sebring on the 3rd and must work hard this week to pay for it. I understand I'm giving up some with HPS instead of HP+ or DTC but the car spends much more time on the street than track and I'm not fast enough to out drive the pads or tires (stock GY Supercars) at the moment. Perhaps by the time I wear these out ill be ready to make tire/brake swaps for my track weekends.
That's a real good price on those pads, even lightly used. I'll keep them in mind for my next set if you still have them ( and if I like the ones I'm getting installed).

BTW. The first thing I did with the GS was SS lines and Motul600.

 

GO with a 1 piece pad and leave the pins in, just pull the caliper bolts. For track days I would use Carbotech XP10 front and XP8 rear. Give me a call I will be happy to help you 216-780-8825