Good - at least you can rule out the Canadian procedure!!

Just to follow up, pics are below.

Bob


U.S. C6 Z06 IPC:





Canadian (or Euro spec) Z06 cluster - note the oil press calibrated in kPa, the coolant temp in °C, and the speedo goes up to 320 (I think the base C6 goes to 300):

 

Nope, I can not get the car to say "off/acc to learn".

I took all the fobs inside the house as far away from the car as possible and still can not get it to say this. This is the part that’s starting to bug me.

Side note from what chevydave said, the first few times I tried this last week I got everything set up and it didnt work, so I went back and it then said ready for fob #4, I thought ok sure and stuck the newly programmed fob in the box, remember it didn’t work when I tried it as fob #3 (wouldn’t unlock, lock with the buttons on the fob) so I thought what the heck I'll just try this as #4 then, then the car said "known fob". I then tried to start the car with it and it wouldn’t work. So I'm completely confused.

I know I'm skipping around a bit because I've tried this process probably 10 different times and I cant remember what all has happened so sorry for sounding like a nut.

 

Man, I like that speedo! 320 looks faster than a measly 200!

Ok, I guess that rules out the canada car thing.

 

lol... naw... frustrated maybe... nut NO.... lol

yea so having it say 'known fob' is most excellent!!!! its in there (somewhere) unless you go through delete procedure.

my bet is just a weak/dead new fob battery!!!!! dont give up!!!

 

I'm still stumped at not getting to step 9. He doesn't get the chance to get into the long program, only the short "add a FoB" part. It acts like it still sees a FOB in the area and wants to add, not erase and start anew. The instructions almost ask for you to be standing on your left foot and holding your left arm up straight in the air!


Elmer

 

Lets regroup. DID you......

Also: Aftermarket radios can cause an issue when you try to get into the programming mode. The radio triggers a code that the radio security feature is not talking to the ECM properly. If you have an aftermarket radio and did not buy the harness for the door beeps and OnStar, you might NOT be able to get into programming mode.

Also: Canadian Spec cars can do the short programming procedure but must have the dealer perform the long programming procedure.

Also: European Spec cars cannot do the short or long procedure. All FOB programming must be done by the dealer.

Also: This can be a long time “on battery”, it may be a good idea to hook a battery tender up to the car during programming to insure that you don’t discharge the battery to where the programming fails or the car won’t start.

Step 1 Car off Transmission in P, if Automatic, or Reverse if M6.
Step 2 Trunk open
Step 3 Glove box open
Note: Do not have ANY cell phones in/around the car.




Did you do all of those preliminary steps (Holy Water bath will be next )

Elmer

 

Yup, I tried all those steps just like that. No phone or chargers in the car. I only have the factory radio so it’s not that. Funny thing is after the first night it did kill my battery from trying it for 2 hours so I hooked up my trickle charger and it’s still on the car.

I can't get the car into the “Off/Acc to learn” but one time I did have it where my main key wasn’t recognized to I thought well maybe the car completely erased all the fobs on its own without going into the “Off/Acc to learn”. Not sure if that’s what happened or if its even possible to happen without going into that function. At that time I couldn't unlock the doors or start the car. Not going to lie, I was a little freaked out. But I did go back through and program the main key and it worked. Then tried to program the new key and it didn’t work. I'm pretty sure that’s when it said "ready for fob #2" was when both keys got erased.

 

I forgot one, No FOBs within your city limits? (I kid, just have the FOBs away from the car. If the car senses a FOB, it'll step into the Add a Fob mode and never make it to step 9. How about anything plugged in to the cigarette lighter hole like a charger or power supply for some electronic device?

How many volts do you see on the voltmeter? Car battery above 12v?

 

Nope, nothing is plugged into the cigarette lighter. How far away does the fob need to be? I think I read 20 feet, correct? I just about tried to see how far I could throw it off my back deck last night after it wouldn't work for me....hahaha

I haven’t tried a voltmeter but I would guess its at 12v since its been on the trickle charger since Saturday.

 

when you get home try this...

press the accessory (down) on start button, hold for 10 seconds or until the DIC lights up. first it will say 'accessory mode', but in abother 5+ seconds DIC will light up.
then press options until you get to voltage, it will read 11.1 on low side (a little run down but fine) and 12.1 (really fully charged) on high side. 11.6-11.8 will be normal because lights and stuff will be on draining some juice. shouldnt have anything to do with your problem just something you can do.


here is my crazy thought.............
you said you bought the car, but only were given 1 fob (#2 fob). so i know there is another floating around somewhere, and someday you will want to erase all and program in just the two you have.. but...
if the car acts like its finding one even when you dont have any around..
(my crazy thought...drum roll)
what if that missing fob is actually in the car, hidden/lost?????

have you tried to start the car when you have NO known fobs near it?

sorry, its crazy, but i cant help myself!!!! lol

 

Cool, Thanks for the voltmeter tip. I didn’t know you could to do that.

When I first read that I was like holy smokes I bet the other key is in the car....but then I remembered I took the carpet out this winter and cleaned everything so I'm 100% positive it’s not in there.....hahaha. I got really excited for about....oh .2 secs and then it dawned on me. Darn!!

 

They taped it in the glove box so you would have the spare!

 

Ok so here’s an update....

I went home for lunch today because I'm bound and determined that I'm going to get this damn thing to work!!

I started with taking the new fob and putting it in the glove box.....except the doors were locked so I went to get the other key to unlock the doors. It wouldn’t work. So I reached in and pulled the handle on the driver floor to open the door. Both keys ended up not working so I started the process over again. I started with putting the key in the trunk cylinder and turning 5 times. The DIC said "ready for fob #1" I put the old fob in the glove box slot, after it beeped it said "ready for fob #2" I pulled it out and hit the unlock button on the fob. Then I put the new fob in and it beeped again. I hit the unlock button on the new fob and then hit the bottom side of the start button. It turned on the radio like it recognized the fobs. I then tried to lock and up lock everything with each fob one at a time. Again the new fob would not do anything. Only the old fob worked. I'm starting to think the fob is bad or something...I don't know at this point. It seems to be reading the fob when I program it but nothing after that. I then went and took the old fob out of the car and stuck the new fob in the glove box slot to see if it would start the car and nothing....the DIC said "no fob detected"

Does anyone else have an idea what could be causing the new fob not to work? Again no cell phone or chargers were in the car at the time and I have the OEM factory Bose radio.

 

Good FOB, bad FOB, no FOB, FOB in the next State, FOB 5,000 miles away doesn't make a difference. When you have no FOBS around, it should got to Step 9 every time and ask if you want to erase the FOBs (basically) and start over with a new #1 and a new #2.


Not getting to Step 9 is your problem. I'm thinking you may have to (shudder) get a dealer involved with this and use a Tech 2 for this bastage!

Elmer

 

Ok, humor me....

How are your Options set? DO you have it set to give the 3 honks if a FOB is left in the car? If not, set it up to give you the beeps. If you have it set that way, screw this idea.

I was hoping it isn't set to beep. I'm looking to see if it thinks there is a FOB in the car. Maybe there is?????

Elmer

 

No I dont currently have it set up to honk with the key in it but I will do that tonight and see what it does. If there is a fob lodged some where inside the car I'm going to be so pissed....but maybe happy too....then pissed because I bought a remote that I cant use...

 

keep smiling!!!

btw... if you see something like this mounted somewhere hidden in/under your car..... well...

 

cheap to do, replace battery in new fob. get battery in correct way up and get the metal ring back in (if it comes out) just the way it came out because it will go back in turned wrong. also get battery with smooth sides, one brand has a rough sided battery and that has caused some problems.

oh, i assume you bought 2005-2007 style like in this link..
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...ement-diy.html

 

Had somewhat the same issues. Got my '08 used with only the #2 fob. They shipped me the #1 fob but it wouldn't program. I got frustrated and did the fob delete and guess what?
The fob reader turned out to be bad so it didn't read anything after the delete. In other words, I had a full scale dicast model of a 2008 Vette that was dead.
Next up was a trip to the dealer on a flatbed to diagnose and get a new reader installed. After that, all good. Word of warning, think twice about doing the fob delete. Good luck.

 

maybe, and i'm just guessing here... thats why the instructions say to verify you have 1 good working fob that will work in the glove slot.

just a guess... could be wrong (NOT)

quote from programming instructions... "
Before starting, it is important to make sure that the glovebox slot is working properly. If it is not, and the long procedure is started, then the car will be stripped of its fob programming, but will then not be able to accept new fob programming through the slot. This will leave the car unable to be started"

p.s. you can PM me if ya want to, i already went around and around with someone that scared the poo outa someone by telling them to take your car to a dealership and work on it in their parking lot because you might end up with a diecast model. so PM if you want to argue about it, i did before and i will again!