Best Cold Air Intake for my c6?
#41
Burning Brakes
Since the factory intake draws air from the front of the vehicle, it is indeed a cold air intake. In fact is is more of a cold air intake than your Vararam is a Ram Air intake...
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#42
Tolero Apto Victum
Thanks, Gering. I was looking at these and they seem to be a good design. I read some comments where it seemed that some guys did not care for the provided filter itself but the design looks like it makes more sense than most that I have seen. The "ram air" idea seems to make great sense (if you don't actually have a turbo or SC to jam it in there
I will keep trying to get more info on this design.
I will keep trying to get more info on this design.
#43
Race Director
and the more you talk the dumber you sound are voices telling you to make dumb statements
#44
Race Director
A true CAI delivers ambient air directly to the filter. Kinda like the Vararam does.
#46
Race Director
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#48
Burning Brakes
Right; Thru the front of the vehicle, thru the radiator, across the engine and then across the top of the radiator into the filter. How "cold" do you think the air is by the time it reaches the filter?
A true CAI delivers ambient air directly to the filter. Kinda like the Vararam does.
A true CAI delivers ambient air directly to the filter. Kinda like the Vararam does.
I have always admitted to being new to the Corvette... Why do they mount the filter in front of the radiator if its drawing under hood engine heat? Or where you just over exaggerating to make a point?
If what you say is indeed correct then Well then I stand corrected...
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Last edited by AIR_RAM; 11-11-2013 at 12:40 PM.
#49
Burning Brakes
You still believe in RAM AIR! This must mean you also believe in Unicorns, Goblins and Santa Clause... FYI... they dont exist! <---- Looking forward to this debate with you. LMFAO! Dude you need to see a doctor!
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Last edited by AIR_RAM; 11-11-2013 at 12:45 PM.
#50
Le Mans Master
Yeah dennis... You sound like a genius!
You still believe in RAM AIR! This must mean you also believe in Unicorns, Goblins and Santa Clause... FYI... they dont exist! <---- Looking forward to this debate with you. LMFAO! Dude you need to see a doctor!
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You still believe in RAM AIR! This must mean you also believe in Unicorns, Goblins and Santa Clause... FYI... they dont exist! <---- Looking forward to this debate with you. LMFAO! Dude you need to see a doctor!
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#51
"AlohaC5" Senior Member
I use the Callaway honker intake, but I would recommend the FAST 102 intake manifold and a set of 1 3/4 headers for the LS2. These two items along with a good tune will help increase your HP/TQ through the entire power band, plus the sound is nice. As for exhaust I have and would recommend the Corsa sport exhaust.
Last edited by Gray Ghost GS; 11-11-2013 at 01:46 PM.
#52
When you prop open the shroud, it will fill with ambient air at speeds over 30-40 mph just like an air box. This comes in through the grill directly. Because the flow is strong through the grill into the "air box," little air escapes from the pressurized, if you will, shroud because there is no major exit available. The airflow keeps it full as it replenishes the air the intake uses and that which does escape. Turbulence is not high as the air isn't moving around that quickly once pressurized--it's not like there is an exit that allows escape at anything like entry speed--most will go up into the engine compartment and that's not a bad thing for a bit of engine cooling. In this regard, it is similar to the CAIs that take air in through a hole in the shroud. Less air will escape from a Vararam's small duct area, but it also will only be replaced, once full, as needed. Everyone has their own opinions, and that's fine, but overlooking the free shroud prop doesn't make sense. I'm just not convinced, with my driving routine, $400 would gain me that much--I don't race, so others may well deem it a good way to get another 10hp, perhaps.
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LOL... really? OMG I did not know our factory intakes drew air through the hot *** radiator then over the engine then into the filter! I honestly thought it drew the air from in FRONT of the radiator. At least it appears to do so.
I have always admitted to being new to the Corvette... Why do they mount the filter in front of the radiator if its drawing under hood engine heat? Or where you just over exaggerating to make a point?
If what you say is indeed correct then Well then I stand corrected...
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I have always admitted to being new to the Corvette... Why do they mount the filter in front of the radiator if its drawing under hood engine heat? Or where you just over exaggerating to make a point?
If what you say is indeed correct then Well then I stand corrected...
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When you prop open the shroud, it will fill with ambient air at speeds over 30-40 mph just like an air box. This comes in through the grill directly. Because the flow is strong through the grill into the "air box," little air escapes from the pressurized, if you will, shroud because there is no major exit available. The airflow keeps it full as it replenishes the air the intake uses and that which does escape. Turbulence is not high as the air isn't moving around that quickly once pressurized--it's not like there is an exit that allows escape at anything like entry speed--most will go up into the engine compartment and that's not a bad thing for a bit of engine cooling. In this regard, it is similar to the CAIs that take air in through a hole in the shroud. Less air will escape from a Vararam's small duct area, but it also will only be replaced, once full, as needed. Everyone has their own opinions, and that's fine, but overlooking the free shroud prop doesn't make sense. I'm just not convinced, with my driving routine, $400 would gain me that much--I don't race, so others may well deem it a good way to get another 10hp, perhaps.
You may want to spend your $400 someplace else depending on how you value the purchase.
#55
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#56
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Open the hood of your car, look where the air filter is mounted. If you are factory stock the filter is mounted on top of the radiator shroud (which seals the radiator so that cooling air flows thru the radiator). That's ON TOP of the shroud, the majority of the air that gets to the top of the shroud has to come from the engine compartment after it's been thru the radiator. The throttle body is 90mm, there is no 90mm opening in the shroud.
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A little study of the frontal aerodynamics of a C6 will help you identify the high pressure locations and areas of turbulence. It's pretty interesting if you understand fluid dynamics from an engineering point of view.
#58
Burning Brakes
When you prop open the shroud, it will fill with ambient air at speeds over 30-40 mph just like an air box. This comes in through the grill directly. Because the flow is strong through the grill into the "air box," little air escapes from the pressurized, if you will, shroud because there is no major exit available. The airflow keeps it full as it replenishes the air the intake uses and that which does escape. Turbulence is not high as the air isn't moving around that quickly once pressurized--it's not like there is an exit that allows escape at anything like entry speed--most will go up into the engine compartment and that's not a bad thing for a bit of engine cooling. In this regard, it is similar to the CAIs that take air in through a hole in the shroud. Less air will escape from a Vararam's small duct area, but it also will only be replaced, once full, as needed. Everyone has their own opinions, and that's fine, but overlooking the free shroud prop doesn't make sense. I'm just not convinced, with my driving routine, $400 would gain me that much--I don't race, so others may well deem it a good way to get another 10hp, perhaps.
With that said, I'm also a believer that most aftermarket CAI are worth a solid 10-15RWHP on average over the factory design and are measurable at the track/pump/butt Dyno. Some Cold Air intakes will make more than others due to their ability to direct large amounts of cool non-turbulent air to the throttle body.
I'm not doubting the performance of the vehicle's who run the VR. I do see some great design features of the VR that clearly allow it to deliver large amounts of non-turbulent cool air. Its gradual funnel from the filter to the throttle body and filter design may ultimately be the key to its success. I never doubted it made gains... I just did not agree as to how the gains are made. My mind is not that simple.
In the end it depends on what the owner is looking. Most never see a track and just want great performance on the rare event they put the peddle to the floor.
I may try a few tricks with the factory intake just to see what gains can be had for FREE... It would be nice if there is a significant measurable gain with zero cash down.
We have a K&N 63-3073 on the shelf so I may do some caparison testing with that and them move on to some caparison testing of the more popular brands. I live walking distance from Homestead Miami Speedway so track time is abundant. I may pick up the VR to see if it really causes the car to run warmer at the track or not... Thats the only downside I have heard about it. LG C6 Super Ram looks like a bad *** intake as well... But its a bit expensive. It would look sick under the hood though!
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#59
Burning Brakes
Remember that CAI is (COLD air intake), not CIA (Central Intelligence Agency), meaning that all the air at the inlet is the same temperature as the outside air. If any air passes by an area that has heated air or heated components prior to the inlet, it is not truly a CAI unit.
A little study of the frontal aerodynamics of a C6 will help you identify the high pressure locations and areas of turbulence. It's pretty interesting if you understand fluid dynamics from an engineering point of view.
A little study of the frontal aerodynamics of a C6 will help you identify the high pressure locations and areas of turbulence. It's pretty interesting if you understand fluid dynamics from an engineering point of view.
And yes I do have a slight grasp of fluid dynamics.
I have been doing some searching for C6 frontal aerodynamics specific publications but I have been unsuccessful at finding any. I have found several forum postings touching the topic however.
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#60
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Yeah dennis... You sound like a genius!
You still believe in RAM AIR! This must mean you also believe in Unicorns, Goblins and Santa Clause... FYI... they dont exist! <---- Looking forward to this debate with you. LMFAO! Dude you need to see a doctor!
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You still believe in RAM AIR! This must mean you also believe in Unicorns, Goblins and Santa Clause... FYI... they dont exist! <---- Looking forward to this debate with you. LMFAO! Dude you need to see a doctor!
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