winter build! need some advise!
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Racer
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From: Salisbury PA.
winter build! need some advise!
well I got the motor out of my 2005 c6 today, its got 109k on it, virgin motor so im planning on sending the block out to get checked and what not and doing a mild build, piston rings and what ever it needs. then im looking to make power, id like to keep the bottom end somewhat stock, as far as compression goes really. I wanna get a head and cam package, and a aluminum intake manifold. I like the fast ones but I heard there is some minor modifications to make them fit? someone can prolly clear this up. im doing a full exhaust, catless, HP tuners and injectors if I need them, sure ill prolly upgrade anyways. planning on doing a monster stage 2 or 3 clutch and a aluminum flywheel. this car will be driven a fair amount but not everyday to work or anything, just in the evenings after work and on week ends so im trying to keep it streetable to an extent. oh and I almost forgot, I wanna do a 100 shot, not sure if its gonna be wet or dry yet, maybe someone can point me in the safest direction lol. ill keep pics posted of the tear down and such. thanks!
Le Mans Master
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From: ocean springs mississippi
the fast 102 will fit w/o modification and is a great mod for the ls2's.look into the trick flow 220 as cast heads and a good cam guy...I've been working w/ brian tooley on my next mods. good luck!
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Racer
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From: Salisbury PA.
block is going to the machine shop tomorrow, im going with the trick flow 225 heads! do yous think the factory LS2 fuel system, pump and injectors will keep up with my mods? just doing trick flow 225 kit and full exhaust, headers intake, ported TB, fast 102 intake.
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From: Somers NY
Sounds like a nice build, but I'm wondering if you have the motor torn down that far, why not go to a 4" stroke crank..& have a 403 ci motor...
Mine is being done now with....
Callie 4" forged stroker crank
Manley forged Rods (H Beam)
Wiseco pistons
Ported and polished 243 heads
Melling oil pump
Kooks Headers (with cats)
Fast 102 intake
Cam custom grind from Cartek (in NJ)
They just finished a build almost the exact same, and it made 496 HP & 484 tq on the dyno with an automatic trans car..
Mine is being done now with....
Callie 4" forged stroker crank
Manley forged Rods (H Beam)
Wiseco pistons
Ported and polished 243 heads
Melling oil pump
Kooks Headers (with cats)
Fast 102 intake
Cam custom grind from Cartek (in NJ)
They just finished a build almost the exact same, and it made 496 HP & 484 tq on the dyno with an automatic trans car..
Last edited by jpee; Dec 3, 2013 at 10:33 PM.
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Racer
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From: Salisbury PA.
just planning on freshening up the rings, cylinder. car was gonna get a clutch so I figured if just pull the motor. ill get pics of the block when I get it back but ill be ordering parts for re-assembly soon. I wasn't gonna do heads but now I figure I prolly should since the heads are complete and ready to go. im aiming for 500 RWHP.
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If you look at the price of a forged LS3 short block from several different forum members, you may end up saving a bunch of money. Texas Speed, SGPD, etc all have package deals.
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Racer
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the machine shop said block and crank look excellent! their gonna do a light hone on the cylinders on Monday and their gonna press my cam gear on. should have it Tuesday or Wednesday and the assembly will start! got my new B&M ahifter and SLP skip shift installed today. the slp oil pump and double roller timing chain kit along with ATI balancer came yesterday.
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From: Somers NY
I decided to go to MORE CI.. and am picking up my 403 ci Cartek motor on Wed. It has all the good parts..Callies Crankshaft 4" stroker. Manley connecting rods, Weisco pistons,all forged.... Melling oil pump FAST 102 intake.. etc...
I just don't like NO2, and thought by not going that route I'd be safer...
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From: Southampton NJ
I put it on just in case i needed it, I dialed it in with the right plugs and jets, I run the NA everyday tune and spray C16 with the fuel cell, logged it read the plugs made the fuel jet change and did it all again while keeping the NA tune, I have never tried it at the track
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From: Somers NY
No it looked like a Rod Bolt failed, and things went from BAD to TERRIBLE in 1 sec @ 6800 rpm 
The new motor has all ARP bolts, and everything is "FORGED" i.e Crank, Rods, pistons...The only thing I don't know is the cam specs... but Julio told me "Just Shut Up and DRIVE IT!
I trust him with my life... & he had my almost stock C4 running 12.2 @ 110 with stock cam, heads, intake...
The car in the video was almost stock.. it had the stock internals.. I "THINK" it was just "it's time".. it had 45,000 miles on it and most were put on 1/4 mile at a time !!
Julio said this motor is good to 7500 rpm, but I told him to set shift points between 6800 and 7000... (Playing it safe)
The new motor has all ARP bolts, and everything is "FORGED" i.e Crank, Rods, pistons...The only thing I don't know is the cam specs... but Julio told me "Just Shut Up and DRIVE IT!
I trust him with my life... & he had my almost stock C4 running 12.2 @ 110 with stock cam, heads, intake...
The car in the video was almost stock.. it had the stock internals.. I "THINK" it was just "it's time".. it had 45,000 miles on it and most were put on 1/4 mile at a time !!
Julio said this motor is good to 7500 rpm, but I told him to set shift points between 6800 and 7000... (Playing it safe)
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From: Southampton NJ
I also was going to go the Nitrous route.. "BUT" after the following incident,
Panuzzo dyno - YouTube
I decided to go to MORE CI.. and am picking up my 403 ci Cartek motor on Wed. It has all the good parts..Callies Crankshaft 4" stroker. Manley connecting rods, Weisco pistons,all forged.... Melling oil pump FAST 102 intake.. etc...
I just don't like NO2, and thought by not going that route I'd be safer...
Panuzzo dyno - YouTube
I decided to go to MORE CI.. and am picking up my 403 ci Cartek motor on Wed. It has all the good parts..Callies Crankshaft 4" stroker. Manley connecting rods, Weisco pistons,all forged.... Melling oil pump FAST 102 intake.. etc...
I just don't like NO2, and thought by not going that route I'd be safer...
Tolero Apto Victum
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From: Woodlands TX
No it looked like a Rod Bolt failed, and things went from BAD to TERRIBLE in 1 sec @ 6800 rpm
The new motor has all ARP bolts, and everything is "FORGED" i.e Crank, Rods, pistons...The only thing I don't know is the cam specs... but Julio told me "Just Shut Up and DRIVE IT!
I trust him with my life... & he had my almost stock C4 running 12.2 @ 110 with stock cam, heads, intake...
The car in the video was almost stock.. it had the stock internals.. I "THINK" it was just "it's time".. it had 45,000 miles on it and most were put on 1/4 mile at a time !!
Julio said this motor is good to 7500 rpm, but I told him to set shift points between 6800 and 7000... (Playing it safe)
The new motor has all ARP bolts, and everything is "FORGED" i.e Crank, Rods, pistons...The only thing I don't know is the cam specs... but Julio told me "Just Shut Up and DRIVE IT!
I trust him with my life... & he had my almost stock C4 running 12.2 @ 110 with stock cam, heads, intake...
The car in the video was almost stock.. it had the stock internals.. I "THINK" it was just "it's time".. it had 45,000 miles on it and most were put on 1/4 mile at a time !!
Julio said this motor is good to 7500 rpm, but I told him to set shift points between 6800 and 7000... (Playing it safe)
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Racer
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From: Salisbury PA.
talked to the shop today, they said they honed the cylinders, left abnk was fine bu right bank had a full spots that were pulled in, they did a .010 bore and everything looked good after that. looks like im gonna be doing pistons now also, im planning on staying stock compression though.