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doing a build consisting of, intake, ported OEM TB, fast 102 intake, a 7/8" catless headers and full exhaust, trick flow 225cc head and cam combo. this is on my 05 c6, will my factory fuel system handle this? I am going with the FAST fuel rails when I order my intake manifold, but I don't think rails really matter, just doing it for some under the hood eye candy lol.
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What size injectors should I go with? Minus well upgrade now.
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Fuel system in total is capable of handling much more than the hp level you'll be at.
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So my injectors won't be maxed out? I just don't wanna run into problems with them going Static at 7k rpm.
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No way.
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Ok good deal! I really didn't wanna fool with the fuel system if I didn't have to. Thanks though. Just want this thing to be reliable and not have to worry about it.
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Stock 42lb injectors should be good to 500+ rwhp.

I'd be more concerned about using a stock tb on that 102 on a stock cube engine...you're bottle-necking that 102, and I'm hoping it won't disappoint you on the dyno as it has so many others with the same setup.
An acquaintance in my car club has an almost identical setup in an LS3 swapped GTO, just added a 102 intake and gained a whopping 1hp and 3 ft/lbs on stock heads and a stock throttle body w/ 1 7/8 headers and a CAI.

You'll be all set if you plan on bigger heads and more cubes down the road though.
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Stock 42lb injectors should be good to 500+ rwhp.

I'd be more concerned about using a stock tb on that 102 on a stock cube engine...you're bottle-necking that 102, and I'm hoping it won't disappoint you on the dyno as it has so many others with the same setup.
An acquaintance in my car club has an almost identical setup in an LS3 swapped GTO, just added a 102 intake and gained a whopping 1hp and 3 ft/lbs on stock heads and a stock throttle body w/ 1 7/8 headers and a CAI.

You'll be all set if you plan on bigger heads and more cubes down the road though.
90mm TB will feed more than enough. You will not have a restriction with it.

LS3's have good stock Intakes. A FAST102 doesn't gain much over stock. On an LS2 application above, he will gain 20+ rwhp, even with the stock throttle body.
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Originally Posted by filmjay
Stock 42lb injectors should be good to 500+ rwhp.

I'd be more concerned about using a stock tb on that 102 on a stock cube engine...you're bottle-necking that 102, and I'm hoping it won't disappoint you on the dyno as it has so many others with the same setup.
An acquaintance in my car club has an almost identical setup in an LS3 swapped GTO, just added a 102 intake and gained a whopping 1hp and 3 ft/lbs on stock heads and a stock throttle body w/ 1 7/8 headers and a CAI.

You'll be all set if you plan on bigger heads and more cubes down the road though.
the car is getting trick flow heads... what throttle body do you recommend? was you thinking a ported stock one or another one? im not sure of any other ones available off hand but ill check.
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the car is getting trick flow heads... what throttle body do you recommend? was you thinking a ported stock one or another one? im not sure of any other ones available off hand but ill check.
Get a ported stock one, or keep the stock one. It will not be a restriction.
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sweet, iv always heard of people using stock ported ones and figured most of the restriction did come from the factory manifold. ill be on the hunt for a factory ported one then. cant wait to get this thing back together now! planned on replacing the TB anyways cause my car was going into limp mode on rare occasion, P2135, service traction system. everyone I talked to said replace the TB before replacing the pedal assembly. before I parked the car for winter I didn't have any problems for a while.
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Originally Posted by filmjay
Stock 42lb injectors should be good to 500+ rwhp.
I may be wrong, but I thought the LS2 has 33# injectors. The OP would be better off with LS3 42# injectors to ensure the stock ones are strung out.
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As long as the factory fuel pump will handle ls3 injectors and fast fuel rails, I have no problem upgrading to them.
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Originally Posted by filmjay
Stock 42lb injectors should be good to 500+ rwhp.

I'd be more concerned about using a stock tb on that 102 on a stock cube engine...you're bottle-necking that 102, and I'm hoping it won't disappoint you on the dyno as it has so many others with the same setup.
An acquaintance in my car club has an almost identical setup in an LS3 swapped GTO, just added a 102 intake and gained a whopping 1hp and 3 ft/lbs on stock heads and a stock throttle body w/ 1 7/8 headers and a CAI.

You'll be all set if you plan on bigger heads and more cubes down the road though.
no bottle neck on LS2.ported Fast 102 with stock tb will pick up around 25 rwhp or better. ported Fast and OBX lt's picked up 60rwhp on mine. LS3 results are not compareable.

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Originally Posted by sick cc
doing a build consisting of, intake, ported OEM TB, fast 102 intake, a 7/8" catless headers and full exhaust, trick flow 225cc head and cam combo. this is on my 05 c6, will my factory fuel system handle this? I am going with the FAST fuel rails when I order my intake manifold, but I don't think rails really matter, just doing it for some under the hood eye candy lol.
I disagree with the other posters here. My car is at 478 rwhp H/C combo and my injectors are at 99% duty cycle at WOT.

You should have 530 rwhp and I personally would not push it that far with stock injectors.

I also personally would not go with the FAST rails...I have horror stories with them leaking on two friends cars..maybe it was setup error but I am not a fan of any fuel leaks. FAST intake on the other hand is a fantastic mod.

Just another man's opinion.
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^ good advise, not sure if they were bad from factory or not but ill avoid the rails cause I really don't need them, was just going for some looks really. thanks! BTW im gonna go with FAST 46 injectors, or should I just do their 50's?
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^ good advise, not sure if they were bad from factory or not but ill avoid the rails cause I really don't need them, was just going for some looks really. thanks! BTW im gonna go with FAST 46 injectors, or should I just do their 50's?
I can't advise you on that, but I would suggest you do a thread on what injectors people use and like. You want to be sure and get injectors that you can get the conversation tables for, some injectors were troubling from that perspective years ago, folks didn't have the conversion spreadsheets and had trouble tuning the cars. It's been a while since i looked into it, maybe that's all fixed now.

But I do I do know its imperative you get the conversion tables or the car won't run worth a darn.

Good luck with your build, you're using the best heads out there.
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I disagree with the other posters here. My car is at 478 rwhp H/C combo and my injectors are at 99% duty cycle at WOT.

You should have 530 rwhp and I personally would not push it that far with stock injectors.

I also personally would not go with the FAST rails...I have horror stories with them leaking on two friends cars..maybe it was setup error but I am not a fan of any fuel leaks. FAST intake on the other hand is a fantastic mod.

Just another man's opinion.
Julio said i was maxed out with cam and bolt/ons and recommended me not to run in the cold air, he said summer i would be fine but needed the injectors resized to run in the cold, now im at 60
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Just found out the 50's are for the ls3. The next size up from ls2 46 is the 57's. maybe I'll go with them to be sure.
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Julio said i was maxed out with cam and bolt/ons and recommended me not to run in the cold air, he said summer i would be fine but needed the injectors resized to run in the cold, now im at 60
When I was running lower 6lb boost my 42 injectors were more than enough at 535whp. When I increased boost I had 60lb Mototrons installed.
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