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Old Oct 27, 2014 | 10:10 PM
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I got in my car today to leave the house, started the engine, then the car chimed, followed by a low oil pressure message on the display. The oil pressure read zero psi.
I promptly shut off the engine. I just bought this car not even 3 months ago. The dealership where I bought it has a 3 month powertrain warranty on all certified used cars. They better stand behind that warranty when I call them tomorrow, 'cause I'm not happy right now.

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Old Oct 27, 2014 | 11:12 PM
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check oil level? curious if it leaked out or if you have oil pump failure
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Old Oct 27, 2014 | 11:40 PM
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You were smart and shut it right off. Hopefully, no permanent harm done, whatever the diagnosis is.

Don't all wet sumps have a low oil level warning on the DICs? One would think that it would have given you some warning (with that message) if you didn't have something catastrophic. If you did have a catastrophic failure, I would think you would have the evidence on the garage floor.

You didn't mention any odd running or sounds. The reason I bring this up is that I had an oil pressure sending unit go bad a few years ago, but mine was pegged at max; I don't know if they all fail at max, though. It ran normally, and I was told it didn't hurt anything to run it, I just had no way of knowing what was actually happening (oil pressure-wise).

Good luck getting this repaired under the warranty!
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Old Oct 28, 2014 | 09:46 AM
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check oil level? curious if it leaked out or if you have oil pump failure
Oil level is where it should be.
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Old Oct 28, 2014 | 09:53 AM
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You were smart and shut it right off. Hopefully, no permanent harm done, whatever the diagnosis is.

Don't all wet sumps have a low oil level warning on the DICs? One would think that it would have given you some warning (with that message) if you didn't have something catastrophic. If you did have a catastrophic failure, I would think you would have the evidence on the garage floor.

You didn't mention any odd running or sounds. The reason I bring this up is that I had an oil pressure sending unit go bad a few years ago, but mine was pegged at max; I don't know if they all fail at max, though. It ran normally, and I was told it didn't hurt anything to run it, I just had no way of knowing what was actually happening (oil pressure-wise).

Good luck getting this repaired under the warranty!
I got no warning of the problem at all.
Usually, if the sending unit goes bad, the pressure reads around 80 psi all the time. I got zero pressure. I drove the car for 2 hours earlier in the day with no issues whatsoever. No signs that anything was wrong. I'm just glad it didn't happen when i was driving it on the highway. It happened in my driveway. No leaks, no noise from the engine, nothing catastrophic to the engine.

I arranged to have it towed to the dealer. They are going to look at it tomorrow.
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I'd be really curious how the dealer will diagnose this problem without starting the engine. Especially if there are no codes.
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Probably the relief valve in the oil pump.

Not as common as it used to be, but they will stick from time to time and cause an internal oil leak...giving you no oil pressure.

Should just need a new oil pump as long as no damage was done to the engine.


Could be the sensor, but typically on the C6's they will just read XX if the sensor dies.
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Old Oct 28, 2014 | 11:57 AM
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I'd be really curious how the dealer will diagnose this problem without starting the engine. Especially if there are no codes.
It can run for a few seconds without damaging anything. That's enough time to look under the oil cap and see if oil is getting to the heads.
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Originally Posted by Anthony @ LGMotorsports
Probably the relief valve in the oil pump.

Not as common as it used to be, but they will stick from time to time and cause an internal oil leak...giving you no oil pressure.

Should just need a new oil pump as long as no damage was done to the engine.


Could be the sensor, but typically on the C6's they will just read XX if the sensor dies.
Thanks. I'll keep you posted.
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When my sensor went bad, it read 120 and also zero, so they can fail to zero. If the pressure is actually zero, the valve lifters will start clattering very quickly...this is what I was waiting for when mine went to zero. After a couple of minutes with no change in engine sound, I knew it was the sensor. The lifters will start clattering long before engine damage, so it is a good test. From what I have read on here, many more sensors have failed than oil pumps, so that's my bet.
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Why not just take the sender off and with rag in hand, have someone quickly start it and see if oil gushes out.
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Originally Posted by VYMIKE
It can run for a few seconds without damaging anything. That's enough time to look under the oil cap and see if oil is getting to the heads.
Didn't you use up those few seconds when you noticed the problem?
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Originally Posted by EVRose
Didn't you use up those few seconds when you noticed the problem?
Unless he has already heard clattering, I don't think he has used up those diagnostic seconds.
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Originally Posted by cclive
When my sensor went bad, it read 120 and also zero, so they can fail to zero. If the pressure is actually zero, the valve lifters will start clattering very quickly...this is what I was waiting for when mine went to zero. After a couple of minutes with no change in engine sound, I knew it was the sensor. The lifters will start clattering long before engine damage, so it is a good test. From what I have read on here, many more sensors have failed than oil pumps, so that's my bet.
Your right

But it's more exciting to have the car towed to the dealer.

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Unless he has already heard clattering, I don't think he has used up those diagnostic seconds.
That's right.
No engine noise at all.
I had a 2010 camaro ss before this car and accidentally started it up after draining the oil out of it. Now THAT made some chatter, but still didn't damage anything. Same engine as the corvette.
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Your right

But it's more exciting to have the car towed to the dealer.


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Suggestion to take a printed copy of Anthony's two alternatives just in case the dealer techs are stumped! You know what I mean....
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Old Oct 28, 2014 | 07:52 PM
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Suggestion to take a printed copy of Anthony's two alternatives just in case the dealer techs are stumped! You know what I mean....
Do you really think the dealer will listen to you?
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Old Oct 28, 2014 | 08:05 PM
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Do you really think the dealer will listen to you?
A good one will.
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Old Oct 28, 2014 | 09:48 PM
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I'd replace the sending unit. It's easy and cheap to do. It's happened before on the forum and a new sending unit solved the problem.
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