Code P 0300
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Code P 0300
My 2008 Vette started running rough today like it was bad gas? or running out of Gas?
OnStar diagnosis says code P-0300 engine misfiring,
What is the most likely issue or problem ?
Any input is appreciated.
Many Thanks,
guyg4466@gmail.com
OnStar diagnosis says code P-0300 engine misfiring,
What is the most likely issue or problem ?
Any input is appreciated.
Many Thanks,
guyg4466@gmail.com
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Ditto, auto parts store to have them pull the codes for free.
But while you are there and before you buy anything else, pick up some dielectric grease, a spray can of electrical contact cleaner, and fuel line disconnected tool.
Start by popping off the braided fuel line from the firewall hard line with the tool, then remove the drivers side coil cover by slipping it past the disconnect fuel line. Although the cover is slotted so you can slip the line through it, with the cover cold since it's winter months, you will end up cracking the cover by forcing the connected line through the slot on a cold cover instead.
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Now go over to the passenger side, remove the oil cap and remove that cover as well.
Note, both covers are retained via a rubber grommets, so the they will pop/lift right off. Before you put them back on in the end, grease the rubber pieces with some dielectric grease so they snap back on to the seat post smoothly.
Now start with each coil wire connector one by one, gently pull it's wire connector off, hit the inside of the connector and coil pins with the electrical cleaner, use a Q tip to apply some dielectric grease to the pins, then snap the coil wire connector back on and make sure it snaps in place. Now pop the spark plug wire off the coil and spark plug, hit the inside of the boot wires boots with contract cleaner, and break out the dielectric grease on the Q tip to lightly grease both ends of the boot/contractor and snap the spark plug wire back one.
Bluntly, chances are just one of your spark plug wires came loose from the coil, but by going through the coil connectors and wires to clean and grease them, this will prevent them from popping off/causing problems again.
But while you are there and before you buy anything else, pick up some dielectric grease, a spray can of electrical contact cleaner, and fuel line disconnected tool.
Start by popping off the braided fuel line from the firewall hard line with the tool, then remove the drivers side coil cover by slipping it past the disconnect fuel line. Although the cover is slotted so you can slip the line through it, with the cover cold since it's winter months, you will end up cracking the cover by forcing the connected line through the slot on a cold cover instead.
http://www.101corvetteprojects.com/2...l-rail-covers/
Now go over to the passenger side, remove the oil cap and remove that cover as well.
Note, both covers are retained via a rubber grommets, so the they will pop/lift right off. Before you put them back on in the end, grease the rubber pieces with some dielectric grease so they snap back on to the seat post smoothly.
Now start with each coil wire connector one by one, gently pull it's wire connector off, hit the inside of the connector and coil pins with the electrical cleaner, use a Q tip to apply some dielectric grease to the pins, then snap the coil wire connector back on and make sure it snaps in place. Now pop the spark plug wire off the coil and spark plug, hit the inside of the boot wires boots with contract cleaner, and break out the dielectric grease on the Q tip to lightly grease both ends of the boot/contractor and snap the spark plug wire back one.
Bluntly, chances are just one of your spark plug wires came loose from the coil, but by going through the coil connectors and wires to clean and grease them, this will prevent them from popping off/causing problems again.
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There are a lot of things to check. From the Service Manual:
DTC Descriptors
DTC P0300: Engine Misfire Detected
DTC P0301: Cylinder 1 Misfire Detected
DTC P0302: Cylinder 2 Misfire Detected
DTC P0303: Cylinder 3 Misfire Detected
DTC P0304: Cylinder 4 Misfire Detected
DTC P0305: Cylinder 5 Misfire Detected
DTC P0306: Cylinder 6 Misfire Detected
DTC P0307: Cylinder 7 Misfire Detected
DTC P0308: Cylinder 8 Misfire Detected
Circuit/System Description
The engine control module (ECM) uses information from the crankshaft position (CKP) sensor in order to determine when an engine misfire is occurring, and uses information from the camshaft position (CMP) sensor in order to determine which cylinder is misfiring. By monitoring variations in the crankshaft rotation speed for each cylinder, the ECM is able to detect individual misfire events. If the ECM detects a misfire rate sufficient to cause emission levels to exceed mandated standards, DTC P0300 sets. Under certain driving conditions, a misfire rate can be high enough to cause the catalytic converter to overheat, possibly damaging the converter. The malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) will flash ON and OFF when catalytic converter overheating conditions are present and DTC P0300 is set. DTCs P0301-P0308 corresponds to cylinders 1-8. If the ECM is able to determine that a specific cylinder is misfiring, the DTC for that cylinder will also set.
Conditions for Running the DTC
• DTC P0010, P0011, P0101, P0102, P0103, P0106, P0108, P0116, P0117, P0118, P0128, P0220, P0335, P0336, P0502, P1258, P3401, P3425, P3441, and P3449 are not set.
• The engine speed is between 650-6,200 RPM.
• The ignition voltage is between 11-18 volts.
• The engine coolant temperature (ECT) is between -7 and +130°C (+19 and +266°F).
• The fuel level is more than 10 percent.
• The antilock brake system (ABS) and the traction control system (TCS) are not active.
• The power management is not active.
• The transmission is not changing gears.
• The ECM is not in fuel shut-off, or decel fuel cut-off mode.
• Excessive drive wheel slip is not detected.
• The power take-off is disabled.
• The cylinder deactivation is not in progress.
• A manual transmission with a throttle position less than 95 percent.
• DTCs P0300-P0308 run continuously when the above conditions are met.
Conditions for Setting the DTC
The ECM is detecting a crankshaft rotation speed variation indicating a misfire sufficient to cause emission levels to exceed mandated standards.
Action Taken When the DTC Sets
• DTCs P0300-P0308 are Type B DTCs.
• When the MIL is flashing the fuel injector may be disabled for the misfiring cylinder to protect the catalytic converter.
• Depending on the conditions that set the DTC, the engine may go into Open Loop.
Conditions for Clearing the MIL/DTC
• DTCs P0300-P0308 are Type B DTCs.
• The DTC must run and pass under the same operating conditions that were present when the DTC failed.
Diagnostic Aids
• A misfire may only occur when the engine is operating under a load or when the engine is cold.
• A high resistance condition on any ignition control (IC) circuit can cause an engine misfire P0300-P0308 DTC to set without setting an IC circuit P0351-P0358 DTC.
• This test procedure requires that the vehicle battery has passed a load test and is completely charged. Refer to Battery Inspection/Test.
• A misfire DTC could be caused by an excessive vibration from sources other than the engine. Inspect the following for possible sources of vibration:
- A tire or wheel that is out of round or balance
- Variable thickness brake rotors
- An unbalanced drive shaft
- Certain rough road conditions
- A damaged accessory drive component or belt
- A damaged reluctor wheel
- The Crankshaft Position System Variation Learn procedure may need to be performed.
Reference Information
Schematic Reference
Engine Controls Schematics
Connector End View Reference
Component Connector End Views
Electrical Information Reference
• Circuit Testing
• Connector Repairs
• Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections
• Wiring Repairs
DTC Type Reference
Powertrain Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) Type Definitions
Scan Tool Reference
Control Module References for scan tool information
Special Tools
J 26792 HEI Spark Tester
Circuit/System Verification
Verify that no other DTCs are set.
⇒ If a DTC is set, refer to Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) List - Vehicle.
Engine idling, verify there is no abnormal engine noise.
⇒ If there is an abnormal engine noise, refer to Symptoms - Engine Mechanical.
Observe the Misfire Current Counters with a scan tool. The Misfire Current Counters should not be incrementing. A random misfire, across one or more cylinders that are not steadily incrementing may be normal for this engine.
Operate the vehicle within the Conditions for Running the DTC. You may also operate the vehicle within the conditions that you observed from the Freeze Frame/Failure Records data.
Circuit/System Testing
Important: You must perform the Circuit/System Verification first.
Verify that the following conditions do not exist:
• The fuel injector wire harness electrical connectors are connected to the wrong fuel injectors. Refer to Engine Controls Schematics.
• Engine vacuum leaks
• Fuel pressure that is too low or too high--Refer to Fuel System Diagnosis.
• Contaminated fuel--Refer to Alcohol/Contaminants-in-Fuel Diagnosis.
• Restricted exhaust system--Refer to Restricted Exhaust.
Measure the resistance of the spark plug wire, and verify the condition of the spark plug wire. Refer to Ignition System Specifications and Spark Plug Wire Inspection.
⇒ If the resistance value is not within the specified range, or does not pass the inspection, replace the spark plug wire.
Reinstall the spark plug wire to the ignition module/coil assembly.
Install the J 26792 to the spark plug wire boot.
Important: An erratic or weak spark is considered a no spark condition.
Attempt to start the engine and observe the J 26792 . The spark plug tester should spark.
⇒ If there is no spark, refer to Electronic Ignition (EI) System Diagnosis.
Ignition OFF, remove the spark plug from the misfiring cylinder. Verify that the following conditions do not exist with the spark plug:
• Gas, coolant, or oil fouled
• Cracked, worn, or incorrectly gapped--Refer to Spark Plug Inspection.
⇒ If there is a condition with the spark plug, replace the spark plug.
Exchange the suspected spark plug with another cylinder that is operating correctly.
Operate the engine under the conditions in which the misfire occurred, this may include putting the engine under a load or allowing the engine to return to a cold condition. Observe the Misfire Current Counters with a scan tool. The misfire should not follow the spark plug exchange.
⇒ If the misfire follows with the spark plug, replace the spark plug.
If all conditions test normal, test or inspect for the following:
• A lean or rich fuel injector--Refer to Fuel Injector Diagnosis.
• An engine mechanical condition--Refer to Symptoms - Engine Mechanical.
Repair Instructions
• Engine Control Module Replacement
• Engine Control Module Programming and Setup
• Ignition Coil Replacement
• Spark Plug Replacement
Repair Verification
If the customer concern was a flashing MIL, perform the following procedure:
Install any components that have been removed or replaced during diagnosis.
Perform any adjustments, programming or setup procedures that are required when a component is removed or replaced.
Clear the DTCs.
Turn OFF the ignition for 60 seconds.
If the repair was related to a DTC, duplicate the Conditions for Running the DTC and use the Freeze Frame/Failure Records, if applicable, in order to verify the DTC does not reset. If the DTC resets or another DTC is present, refer to the Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) List - Vehicle and perform the appropriate diagnostic procedure.
To verify that the performance of the catalytic converter has not been affected by the condition that set this DTC, perform the Repair Verification for DTC P0420 or P0430. Refer to DTC P0420 or P0430.
Bill
DTC Descriptors
DTC P0300: Engine Misfire Detected
DTC P0301: Cylinder 1 Misfire Detected
DTC P0302: Cylinder 2 Misfire Detected
DTC P0303: Cylinder 3 Misfire Detected
DTC P0304: Cylinder 4 Misfire Detected
DTC P0305: Cylinder 5 Misfire Detected
DTC P0306: Cylinder 6 Misfire Detected
DTC P0307: Cylinder 7 Misfire Detected
DTC P0308: Cylinder 8 Misfire Detected
Circuit/System Description
The engine control module (ECM) uses information from the crankshaft position (CKP) sensor in order to determine when an engine misfire is occurring, and uses information from the camshaft position (CMP) sensor in order to determine which cylinder is misfiring. By monitoring variations in the crankshaft rotation speed for each cylinder, the ECM is able to detect individual misfire events. If the ECM detects a misfire rate sufficient to cause emission levels to exceed mandated standards, DTC P0300 sets. Under certain driving conditions, a misfire rate can be high enough to cause the catalytic converter to overheat, possibly damaging the converter. The malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) will flash ON and OFF when catalytic converter overheating conditions are present and DTC P0300 is set. DTCs P0301-P0308 corresponds to cylinders 1-8. If the ECM is able to determine that a specific cylinder is misfiring, the DTC for that cylinder will also set.
Conditions for Running the DTC
• DTC P0010, P0011, P0101, P0102, P0103, P0106, P0108, P0116, P0117, P0118, P0128, P0220, P0335, P0336, P0502, P1258, P3401, P3425, P3441, and P3449 are not set.
• The engine speed is between 650-6,200 RPM.
• The ignition voltage is between 11-18 volts.
• The engine coolant temperature (ECT) is between -7 and +130°C (+19 and +266°F).
• The fuel level is more than 10 percent.
• The antilock brake system (ABS) and the traction control system (TCS) are not active.
• The power management is not active.
• The transmission is not changing gears.
• The ECM is not in fuel shut-off, or decel fuel cut-off mode.
• Excessive drive wheel slip is not detected.
• The power take-off is disabled.
• The cylinder deactivation is not in progress.
• A manual transmission with a throttle position less than 95 percent.
• DTCs P0300-P0308 run continuously when the above conditions are met.
Conditions for Setting the DTC
The ECM is detecting a crankshaft rotation speed variation indicating a misfire sufficient to cause emission levels to exceed mandated standards.
Action Taken When the DTC Sets
• DTCs P0300-P0308 are Type B DTCs.
• When the MIL is flashing the fuel injector may be disabled for the misfiring cylinder to protect the catalytic converter.
• Depending on the conditions that set the DTC, the engine may go into Open Loop.
Conditions for Clearing the MIL/DTC
• DTCs P0300-P0308 are Type B DTCs.
• The DTC must run and pass under the same operating conditions that were present when the DTC failed.
Diagnostic Aids
• A misfire may only occur when the engine is operating under a load or when the engine is cold.
• A high resistance condition on any ignition control (IC) circuit can cause an engine misfire P0300-P0308 DTC to set without setting an IC circuit P0351-P0358 DTC.
• This test procedure requires that the vehicle battery has passed a load test and is completely charged. Refer to Battery Inspection/Test.
• A misfire DTC could be caused by an excessive vibration from sources other than the engine. Inspect the following for possible sources of vibration:
- A tire or wheel that is out of round or balance
- Variable thickness brake rotors
- An unbalanced drive shaft
- Certain rough road conditions
- A damaged accessory drive component or belt
- A damaged reluctor wheel
- The Crankshaft Position System Variation Learn procedure may need to be performed.
Reference Information
Schematic Reference
Engine Controls Schematics
Connector End View Reference
Component Connector End Views
Electrical Information Reference
• Circuit Testing
• Connector Repairs
• Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections
• Wiring Repairs
DTC Type Reference
Powertrain Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) Type Definitions
Scan Tool Reference
Control Module References for scan tool information
Special Tools
J 26792 HEI Spark Tester
Circuit/System Verification
Verify that no other DTCs are set.
⇒ If a DTC is set, refer to Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) List - Vehicle.
Engine idling, verify there is no abnormal engine noise.
⇒ If there is an abnormal engine noise, refer to Symptoms - Engine Mechanical.
Observe the Misfire Current Counters with a scan tool. The Misfire Current Counters should not be incrementing. A random misfire, across one or more cylinders that are not steadily incrementing may be normal for this engine.
Operate the vehicle within the Conditions for Running the DTC. You may also operate the vehicle within the conditions that you observed from the Freeze Frame/Failure Records data.
Circuit/System Testing
Important: You must perform the Circuit/System Verification first.
Verify that the following conditions do not exist:
• The fuel injector wire harness electrical connectors are connected to the wrong fuel injectors. Refer to Engine Controls Schematics.
• Engine vacuum leaks
• Fuel pressure that is too low or too high--Refer to Fuel System Diagnosis.
• Contaminated fuel--Refer to Alcohol/Contaminants-in-Fuel Diagnosis.
• Restricted exhaust system--Refer to Restricted Exhaust.
Measure the resistance of the spark plug wire, and verify the condition of the spark plug wire. Refer to Ignition System Specifications and Spark Plug Wire Inspection.
⇒ If the resistance value is not within the specified range, or does not pass the inspection, replace the spark plug wire.
Reinstall the spark plug wire to the ignition module/coil assembly.
Install the J 26792 to the spark plug wire boot.
Important: An erratic or weak spark is considered a no spark condition.
Attempt to start the engine and observe the J 26792 . The spark plug tester should spark.
⇒ If there is no spark, refer to Electronic Ignition (EI) System Diagnosis.
Ignition OFF, remove the spark plug from the misfiring cylinder. Verify that the following conditions do not exist with the spark plug:
• Gas, coolant, or oil fouled
• Cracked, worn, or incorrectly gapped--Refer to Spark Plug Inspection.
⇒ If there is a condition with the spark plug, replace the spark plug.
Exchange the suspected spark plug with another cylinder that is operating correctly.
Operate the engine under the conditions in which the misfire occurred, this may include putting the engine under a load or allowing the engine to return to a cold condition. Observe the Misfire Current Counters with a scan tool. The misfire should not follow the spark plug exchange.
⇒ If the misfire follows with the spark plug, replace the spark plug.
If all conditions test normal, test or inspect for the following:
• A lean or rich fuel injector--Refer to Fuel Injector Diagnosis.
• An engine mechanical condition--Refer to Symptoms - Engine Mechanical.
Repair Instructions
• Engine Control Module Replacement
• Engine Control Module Programming and Setup
• Ignition Coil Replacement
• Spark Plug Replacement
Repair Verification
If the customer concern was a flashing MIL, perform the following procedure:
Install any components that have been removed or replaced during diagnosis.
Perform any adjustments, programming or setup procedures that are required when a component is removed or replaced.
Clear the DTCs.
Turn OFF the ignition for 60 seconds.
If the repair was related to a DTC, duplicate the Conditions for Running the DTC and use the Freeze Frame/Failure Records, if applicable, in order to verify the DTC does not reset. If the DTC resets or another DTC is present, refer to the Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) List - Vehicle and perform the appropriate diagnostic procedure.
To verify that the performance of the catalytic converter has not been affected by the condition that set this DTC, perform the Repair Verification for DTC P0420 or P0430. Refer to DTC P0420 or P0430.
Bill
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From: cinnaminson n.j.
St. Jude Donor '14
Do not let anyone clear the codes!! If you can get a good scanner on it, check the misfire monitor. You'll see what cylinder is missing. The history counts will be high. If it's a constant miss you'll see the current counter steadily rising. You could probably pay about $30-60 to have a shop check it, make sure your in the car and ask to see it.
