UmX

Well put 80s on to the car.. When i pulled into the garage i got the warning. And then awesome sounds coming from the motor..

Looking for some ideas.

EVRose

Oil pump failure comes to mind.

AzMotorhead

What have you checked? Oil on the dipstick?
Explain what 80's are please

UmX

Sorry 80 miles. Dumb auto correct. I was thinking pump. Is there a sending unit as well. Or maybe a sensor


Yup oil on dipstick. Changed it about 20 miles ago.

EVRose

Describe "awesome sounds" coming from the motor. If you mean that in a bad way I'd suspect its not a sensor or sending unit but something a little more serious.

AzMotorhead

Did a new o ring get installed on the oil pick-up tube in the pan?

UmX

Buddy said sounds like a lifter tick. When the guy I bought the car from. Changed to gold springs and never changed the lifters.

I don't think the oil pan has ever been off the car.

Z06Brucey

Check to make sure you have oil pressure with a mechanical gauge. If you're oil pressure sensor was bad you usually tend to set a check engine light. I've seen many oil pumps internally take a dump, since the pressure relief valve stop working. FYI I'm a certified Vette tech most common symptoms I see come through our shop.

Dano523

Yep, RTV over used and loose bits of it in the oil pan, gets shredded to fine piece that ends up in the oil pump relief valve (past the pick up screen) to stick the piston open, and with the pressure relief valve stuck open, the pump will not make any oil pressure.

And no it does not take much, and few pieces of RTV the size of a pin head is all it takes to stick the valve open in the pump channel.

tuboy19

Low oil pressure and mechanical noises... oil pump probably took a dump. I've been there. If you didn't let it run for more than a few seconds after getting tappy you can probably get away with doing just the pump but personally I would change the cam and lifters as a precaution for your bearings' sake. I don't like the idea of checking with a mechanical gauge as all that means is that you are running a motor potentially dry. Noises means something IS wrong and you should tear it down.

UmX

So far I tore the top off. Upper and valve covers. There is some **** In the oil upload pic when I'm at the pc

UmX

UmX

would a pump those cause those sounds coming from the motor. or the metal in the oil.. That oil is 200 miles old.

So since the top is tore off.. what should be my next step..

EVRose

Depending on how long it ran with no oil pressure those bits of metal could be chewed up bearings.

UmX

id say under 30 secs

PDsVettes

Send the oil in for analysis.

AzMotorhead

That silvery stuff in your oil is bad news. You've more than likely lost the cam and lifters. My next step would be pulling the motor for a complete teardown and cleanout.
I'd rather err on the side of caution and maybe a grand worth of parts than to risk losing 17 grand for the whole motor

Dano523

Copper parts are even worse, since this is bronze from the main bearings, and they get chewed up as well.

Not sure who build the motor, but pull the oil pump, dump the oil out of it, then pull the oil relief valve out of the oil pump on a clean towel and look for any pieces of RTV that stuck the piston open (yes piece of RTV the size of pin heads either on the piston parts, or in the channel.

Hence this is what caused the oil pump to fail (not build pressure), and do all the motor damage when the motor was running with no oil pressure.

With any luck the engine block may still be rebuild able at least.