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Old Sep 14, 2015 | 02:19 PM
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The pilot sports are more well rounded and have better wear characteristics. The super sports are a better "performance" Tire. Both are miles better than a Goodyear runflats. And If you follow the same ship so many people have including myself, and rid yourself of runflats altogether, you'll be even more happy with the upgrade.
Ok im thinking ill get the super sports. What makes the run flats so great? because this is my daily driver. With the super sports you said will i get 1 g with the base suspension and then 1.05 with the z06 sway bars and shocks? or were you talking about the cup tires?
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Old Sep 14, 2015 | 02:33 PM
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I've got a 2008 base c6 with the manual. Correct me if im wrong on these numbers but i believe it does 0-60 4.1 sec and pulls a 0.95 on the skidpad? My question is what must i do to get 0-60 down to 3.8 and lateral g's above 1 (hopefully 1.05)?
http://www.pfadtracing.com/products_...ll_stage1.html

I bought a JOC Stage 1 suspension kit & changed the GY tires to Michelin on the '08 that I had before & it was like I was like a totally different car. What a difference! It was probably the most noticeable upgrade that I ever did to it (did full bolt on's & CAI & the suspension & tires were the best)

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Old Sep 14, 2015 | 04:18 PM
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Ok im thinking ill get the super sports. What makes the run flats so great? because this is my daily driver. With the super sports you said will i get 1 g with the base suspension and then 1.05 with the z06 sway bars and shocks? or were you talking about the cup tires?
I've had two flats with the OEM RF's in 34K miles. Now at 126K miles on non-RF's and only one tire issue. Your call.

With Z06 sways and shocks, your base spring rate will be wrong and so will the wheel/tire size. If you don't do a whole package that's compatible, you'll find yourself in trouble at the most inopportune time. These mods are not something you can throw together *****-nilly and expect them to work. Racing is dangerous and expensive. Properly setting up a car to race is critical to limiting the danger. Learn to drive before trying to make your car into a racer.

BTW, road course and drag strip setup is different in almost every way. There is no magic bullet that works for both.
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Old Sep 15, 2015 | 01:00 AM
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3.73 or 4.10 gears are a great option to improve your hole shot feel (time).
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Old Sep 16, 2015 | 07:11 PM
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I hope to eventually go to some tracks like road Atlanta one day and there is a couple here in Alabama. Well high g's is how you measure basic cornering, or am i wrong(i know there is more to it but could you tell me what you know that i may not)? I will add power later, but i want to get the cornering down first
Forget the lateral g stuff.

If you want to get cornering down, buy some tires you can afford to wear out because practice will improve your lap times way more than equipment. A track rat in a 0.85g 150hp Miata will _run away_ from an inexperienced driver in a Corvette.

Happily, many of the less grippy tires are more forgiving at the limit, so in addition to buying you more lap time, you get to explore the handling limits of the car more easily. Win-win.
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Old Sep 16, 2015 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by torquetube
Forget the lateral g stuff.

If you want to get cornering down, buy some tires you can afford to wear out because practice will improve your lap times way more than equipment. A track rat in a 0.85g 150hp Miata will _run away_ from an inexperienced driver in a Corvette.

Happily, many of the less grippy tires are more forgiving at the limit, so in addition to buying you more lap time, you get to explore the handling limits of the car more easily. Win-win.
I have been trying to tell him as Tom did, to forget numbers and get out on the track first. I don't know why the OP so stuck on digits. Also, OP, if tracking your car is the plan, power at the beginner level and 0-60 times are the absoulute last thing you need to worry about. Your car makes plenty of power to humble you once you get on the track. My car makes 620-630whp and when I drove the lambo gallardo which develops 500 flywheel so maybe 400 wheel with the loss of an awd system....it was absolutely toooo much car car me on the circuit. I thought I could drive till I got on the track.

Get out there just the way she sits, you'll have a blast, get to know your track, memorize it, and drop your lap times as much as you can. When you go through the tires you have now, then make a choice and get back out there and feel the difference. The new tires will also extend the limits of the car therefor you'll have more ability to grow and push the car. power is not needed for a long time. Tires, suspension, brakes all before power. I have many friends who track, and 1 who actually competes so I have picked up some great knowledge. His biggest kick is taking his 220hp n/a civic and running circles around big brutes because of driver skill.
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Old Sep 23, 2015 | 01:58 PM
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What quarter mile does the 08 corvette get stock? time and trap speed. Also chevy said 0-60 in 4.1 right?

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What quarter mile does the 08 corvette get stock? time and trap speed. Also chevy said 0-60 in 4.1 right?
here's the C6 LS3 fastlist. many factors change the outcome. track prep, temp, density altitude, driver skill, transmission, track upkeep and on and on. as you can see on the list it's a wide window.


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here's the C6 LS3 fastlist. many factors change the outcome. track prep, temp, density altitude, driver skill, transmission, track upkeep and on and on. as you can see on the list it's a wide window.


See that confuses me. How is someone getting HIGHER than factory claimed? I thought they kinda fudged it a bit to make it seem better than it was but that guy at the top is getting way better. Are the testers at gm not very good or do they fudge the performance number more now than they did in 2008? All the magazines got like 12.3-12.4 @ 114-116 so how did the people in that chart do so much better?

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Old Sep 23, 2015 | 02:31 PM
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See that confuses me. How is someone getting HIGHER than factory claimed? I thought they kinda fudged it a bit to make it seem better than it was but that guy at the top is getting way better. Are the testers at gm not very good or do they fudge the performance number more now than they did in 2008?
To put it simple, GM takes a bunch of good drivers, have them collect times, then not the best nor worst get's claimed as standard, but a time that can be repeated 3/4 of the time.

Some people can't drive, I know I was one of them. when I started drag racing this summer, my best was 11.77 and factory claimed 11.70. The joke was I had about 200hp more at the flywheel and drag radials. Now after this summer has passed and I know what the heck I'm doing, my current best is 10.56 and haven't changed a thing expect skill level. the Altitude of the track can make a huge difference as well.

I would say many, many people can't achieve what the magazines say. But they're are a few guys that can flat out destroy it, I see many disappointed people at the track. what happens most often is those drivers blame the track.

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Ranger acheived 11.02 and 10.71 with drag radials.....some guys just got it

Guy at my track last weekend running 12.1-12.2 same car....

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Forget the power mods and get a second set of track tires and get to the track. I took my 08 base to the track and was humbled, not even good enough to know what to improve yet, after all the horror stories I was expecting to lose the rear end cornering but never did and I'm only running Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2's... oh yes, and by the way you will have a blast & wonder why the hell you procrastinated getting her to the track, real sweet running in anger, not real possible anywhere but the track. Once tracking you'll realize that you have to pull the wheels often anyways to get at the brakes, which will become a major concern moving forward... jussayin
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Forget the power mods and get a second set of track tires and get to the track. I took my 08 base to the track and was humbled, not even good enough to know what to improve yet, after all the horror stories I was expecting to lose the rear end cornering but never did and I'm only running Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2's... oh yes, and by the way you will have a blast & wonder why the hell you procrastinated getting her to the track, real sweet running in anger, not real possible anywhere but the track. Once tracking you'll realize that you have to pull the wheels often anyways to get at the brakes, which will become a major concern moving forward... jussayin
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