C6 Tech/Performance LS2, LS3, LS7, LS9 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Tech Topics, Basic Tech, Maintenance, How to Remove & Replace
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

2005/ls2.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 15, 2015 | 06:31 PM
  #1  
Jason W Dreher's Avatar
Jason W Dreher
Thread Starter
Instructor
 
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 212
Likes: 15
Default 2005/ls2.

Hello,


I'm in the market for a ported throttle. I am not looking to remove mine to send out. I wanted to hear some performance feedback on a ported throttle you may have purchased, and the place/brand where you purchased it from.


Any feedback would be greatly appreciated!!


Thanks,


J

Last edited by Jason W Dreher; Nov 15, 2015 at 06:32 PM.
Reply
Old Nov 15, 2015 | 11:45 PM
  #2  
Dano523's Avatar
Dano523
Race Director
10 Year Member
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 12,502
Likes: 3,628
Default

Why on the ported TB?

Have you mod'd the engine to the point that you think it going to make any difference?

Hence most of the time, the problem is up stream, with an after market air filter system that is reeking havoc on the MAF sensor isntead.

Truth is, if you want to have anything ported, then the stock LS-2 air intake manifold is the better money spent (will pick up around 10hp on a stock motor). Hence the stock intake has all kinds of flow problems due to the way it was produced, and just sticking on a ported TB to it is not going to solve the problem with the intake manifold behind it instead.

As for buying a ported TB, yours is silver bladed, and you need to make sure that the new ported one is sliver bladed as well. Hence the newer models have a gold blade unit, and it opens reverse of the way the silver blade one opens up (your wiring will be all wrong for the gold blade TB).

Also, when the TB is changed out, will need to do an idle relearn, so add that into the cost.
Reply
Old Nov 16, 2015 | 06:55 AM
  #3  
dentalfloss's Avatar
dentalfloss
Racer
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 478
Likes: 66
From: Elizabethtown, NC
Default

I personally would not go with a ported throttle body. Most tuners I have talked to do not recommend them as they can cause havoc and are not worth it.
Reply
Old Nov 16, 2015 | 07:04 AM
  #4  
Jason W Dreher's Avatar
Jason W Dreher
Thread Starter
Instructor
 
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 212
Likes: 15
Default

Thanks..


I'm just looking for more "response" on take off.. I read about the throttle controllers here and there has been a lot of positive feedback however, I have a 2005 and these are for 2006 and up. I know corvette's and Camaro's are different but when I ported my 2012 SS, the response time was VERY noticeable..


That's really all I'm looking for..


Thanks..
Reply
Old Nov 16, 2015 | 09:07 PM
  #5  
Dano523's Avatar
Dano523
Race Director
10 Year Member
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 12,502
Likes: 3,628
Default

Originally Posted by Jason W Dreher
Thanks..


I'm just looking for more "response" on take off..
Kind of vague,

Tm is only going to allow you to put so much power to the ground at any instance and the throttle mapping is far from linear between the throttle pedal and how the TB responds.

Bluntly, put, at say 50% throttle pedal down, the TB is only opening around 15%, and slowly opening at that. Once you get past 50% throttle pedal down, then the pedal to TB rates become more linear instead (but still the TB is not snapping open as fast you are pushing the pedal).


So all throttle controllers do is makes the car think that you are pushing the throttle pedal down farther that you actually are, but still at the mercy of how much instant power the TM is going to allow the wheels to put to the ground (and if TC is going to chop power if the tires do start to spin) and just how fast the TB is going to open too.

Now to shove a tad more salt into the wound, on the base model, when you hit the gas pedal, there is a delay before the TB starting to move to begin with (same for when you come of the pedal too before the TB will start to close again). Hence GM installed these delays so the car gets better mileage from someone that is not steady on the pedal, and so you don't buck the car with the gas pedal.

So to sum it all up, although the car is monitoring the sensors before the TB responds to begin with, there is a way to tweak the car so the throttle pedal response is almost as quick as say a carb'd car with fuel pump. Also, the car can be de-hobbled so the TM is not pulling back instant power too. The problem with having all this instant HP on demand via the throttle pedal, the car will not longer be Soccer mom drive-able, and in a novices hands, bank that the car will be crashed in days instead.



To add, and it's my story so I'm sticking with it.

Gm vet/race team designs the car to begin with.

GM buyers price the parts out, loose their mind when they see how much the car would cost, and start value engineering the parts to get the price down to build it.

The test model is built, the race team get a chance to play with to dial it in to have some fun for a day, then GM puts the soccer moms in the car to see if they can drive it.

After they loop the car out a few times on the test track on the first laps from just too much HP on demand/car for them, the software programmers (race team washes their hands of the car at this point since their work is done for what they need on how to turn it back into a C6R car) are brought back in to hobble the car so it's soccer mom drive-able, then go the extra step to see how they can improve the gas mileage as well. Hence in the end, is born the hobbled base model to sell to the public. As for the Z06/ZR-1 models, still the same with hobbling, but at least is least a little closer in programming that the Race team had the car programmed instead.

Can you get back to the race team programming of the car, of course, but if your a soccer mom driver (read novice driver), then expect the same results of crashing the car quickly too.

P.S, It not just the Vet, since even the Hellcat goes through the same soccer mom/warranty mindset process, and it programming hobbled as well to make it soccer mom safe too.
Reply
Old Nov 16, 2015 | 10:44 PM
  #6  
tennblkc6's Avatar
tennblkc6
Melting Slicks
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 2,577
Likes: 68
From: Memphis Tn
Default

Originally Posted by Jason W Dreher
Thanks..


I'm just looking for more "response" on take off.. I read about the throttle controllers here and there has been a lot of positive feedback however, I have a 2005 and these are for 2006 and up. I know corvette's and Camaro's are different but when I ported my 2012 SS, the response time was VERY noticeable..


That's really all I'm looking for..


Thanks..
contact chuck and get the coW booster...that'll get that slug moving off the line.
Reply
Old Nov 16, 2015 | 10:47 PM
  #7  
Jason W Dreher's Avatar
Jason W Dreher
Thread Starter
Instructor
 
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 212
Likes: 15
Default

Originally Posted by tennblkc6
contact chuck and get the coW booster...that'll get that slug moving off the line.

Thanks.. I did and ordered one tonight..


Looking forward to it. I hope it doesn't snow out here or else I'm in trouble! I will not bring it out in the snow lol..


J
Reply
Old Nov 16, 2015 | 11:46 PM
  #8  
Chuck CoW's Avatar
0Chuck CoW
Former Vendor
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 11,792
Likes: 255
From: Ossining New York
St. Jude Donor '07-'08-'09-'10-'12-'13-'14
Default Thank you for your order!

Originally Posted by Jason W Dreher
Thanks.. I did and ordered one tonight..


Looking forward to it. I hope it doesn't snow out here or else I'm in trouble! I will not bring it out in the snow lol..


J
Thank you for your order!

We have the ONLY SOLUTION for 2005 C6 throttle improvement!


Step one: CoW BOOSTER!

.... and after you're addicted like a junkie on crack....

STEP TWO: Chuck CoW AutoCal / TUNE package.


After that, ain't no rehab gonna fix your addiction. You're HOOKED!
Chuck CoW
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-5

Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Nov 16, 2015 | 11:58 PM
  #9  
Jason W Dreher's Avatar
Jason W Dreher
Thread Starter
Instructor
 
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 212
Likes: 15
Default

Originally Posted by Chuck CoW
Thank you for your order!

We have the ONLY SOLUTION for 2005 C6 throttle improvement!


Step one: CoW BOOSTER!

.... and after you're addicted like a junkie on crack....

STEP TWO: Chuck CoW AutoCal / TUNE package.


After that, ain't no rehab gonna fix your addiction. You're HOOKED!
Chuck CoW

lol.. I have a feeling you may be right.. lol..


J
Reply
Old Nov 18, 2015 | 04:25 PM
  #10  
tennblkc6's Avatar
tennblkc6
Melting Slicks
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 2,577
Likes: 68
From: Memphis Tn
Default

Originally Posted by Jason W Dreher
lol.. I have a feeling you may be right.. lol..


J
he is...I have both.
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To 2005/ls2.





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:54 AM.

story-0
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-1
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

Slideshow: Ranking the top 10 Corvette engines by torque output.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:58:09


VIEW MORE
story-3
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

Slideshow: A Corvette pace car nearly matching IndyCar speeds sounds exaggerated, until you look at the numbers.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-04 20:03:36


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

Among a rather large group of them.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:56:44


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

Slideshow: the top 10 things Corvette owners want in the C9 Corvette

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-30 12:41:15


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

Slideshow: 10 Important Corvette 'firsts' that every fan should know.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 17:02:16


VIEW MORE
story-7
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE
story-8
2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette lineup vs the world.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-24 16:12:42


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

Slideshow: 10 major Corvette problems from the last 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-14 16:37:05


VIEW MORE