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Old Mar 16, 2016 | 04:25 PM
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Looking for some advise on a thermostat for my 08 LS3.
It was dyno'ed last year,but everything is stock. This winter
I replaced the ignition wires and plugs,had the throttle body
ported,and installed a Airaid cai.
On the first time out this year it does seem stronger. Thinking
of redoing the dyno,is it worth it? And is it worth renewing the
stat to 160 degree before the dyno?
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Originally Posted by JimmyS5600
Looking for some advise on a thermostat for my 08 LS3.
It was dyno'ed last year,but everything is stock. This winter
I replaced the ignition wires and plugs,had the throttle body
ported,and installed a Airaid cai.
On the first time out this year it does seem stronger. Thinking
of redoing the dyno,is it worth it? And is it worth renewing the
stat to 160 degree before the dyno?
Thanks
It doesn't sound like you made any changes that are enough to warrant a re-tune, assuming that's what you meant by redoing a dyno.
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Ls engines like to make more power when running cool so yes for the lower temps termostad you may want to port the intake manifold as well if you desire to feel another power increase then tune it.
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Yes HOXXOH that is what I meant,thank you. xBoostx I will renew the
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The. 160 stat works best where it's hot. It gives the cooling system a little head start in the hot weather going stop light to stop light. At highway speeds it lowers the water temp 10 or so degrees at least.
If you are doing it to gain hp by running it cooler I don't think it will show up on a dyno. If everything is hot.
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zrracr, thanks for the info. If stat where changed to say 160 degree,do the fans need to be reprogrammed?
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zrracr, thanks for the info. If stat where changed to say 160 degree,do the fans need to be reprogrammed?
I just bought a 160 t-stat and have similar mods as you. I have not yet installed it, still on stock 186* stat. Just done tune, vararam intake, ported TB, wires, and plugs. Apparently you don't want to adjust the fans to where they are on all time time, you can make small changes but the wiring harness can't handle high fan loads for extended periods. We may need to reach out to some of the better tuners here and find out what they recommend for fan adjustment with a 160 installed.

I've run anywhere between 200* and 215* in normal stop and go traffic but the weather hasn't hit high temps so I'm concerned about what will happen as we approach summer. When cruising, everything runs at 192 to 196. It's just sitting at stoplights and traffic jams I'm worried about.

I have a diablosport iTune, if anyone has any suggestions on fan speeds I can make changes and report back. I'm going into this blindly so I don't know where to start. Searching brought up some conflicting info.

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Here is about the most recent thread regarding the subject.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-settings.html

When I get the stat installed I will modify my fan settings to the first setup mentioned in the above thread. My vararam install is what has made my car run a bit hotter in traffic, I'm hoping the 160* tstat and fan setting changes will get it to run cooler in all situations.
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Originally Posted by zrracer
The. 160 stat works best where it's hot. It gives the cooling system a little head start in the hot weather going stop light to stop light. At highway speeds it lowers the water temp 10 or so degrees at least.
If you are doing it to gain hp by running it cooler I don't think it will show up on a dyno. If everything is hot.
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Here is, again, where you lose me, if the thermostat is open, which it is at hwy speeds then is it not the radiator that determines the engine temp??? I understand the 160 opens earlier than the 185 but when open they don't control the temp. Been discussing this for quite awhile on here.
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Once the car is up to operating temperature on a warm day or in traffic, it makes little difference when the t-stat opened. Conversely, opening too soon on a cold day is not a good idea. I adjusted the fans with my Intune up ~ 10% at every level. This is the best way to keep the car running cooler. The thermostat is irrelevant in traffic or on warm days. Once it's open, it's open.
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Thank you corvetteflier that makes sense to me.
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Originally Posted by corvetteflier
Once the car is up to operating temperature on a warm day or in traffic, it makes little difference when the t-stat opened. Conversely, opening too soon on a cold day is not a good idea. I adjusted the fans with my Intune up ~ 10% at every level. This is the best way to keep the car running cooler. The thermostat is irrelevant in traffic or on warm days. Once it's open, it's open.
Well part of what you wrote depends on your opinion of traffic and warm days. Traffic in Billings or Joplin is a far cry from traffic in DC or LA and anything over 60 is warm in Duluth or under 100 in Phoenix.

The question of what is the correct operating temperature, depends on what you are trying to accomplish. It's different for power, emissions, and economy.

There are several parts to the cooling system, but the t-stat's only function is merely to acquire and maintain a low limit.
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One problem we have with the LS engines is air pockets lodged in the aft parts of the heads these pockets of trap air have no chance of getting out ones trapped.

The problem starts ones we drain and refill the cooling system.

This past week I installed a rear steam pipe in a c6 and after replacing the coolant drained two quarts of coolant was added though the coolant was full before, this same car was running 197 to 205 degrees in average temperature days with a 160 degrees stat and Griffin radiator after stem pipes temps came down to 182 to 195 .

Many have lost their 7 and 8 cylinders as a result of above condition due to heat.

No I don't sell these nor is a commercial I just found these are sweet when used with a 1/4 inch fuel hose don't even need to install hose clamps.

The rear steam pipes are the same front part carefully bent to fit in the rear with the hose connecting pipe some what angle up to facilitate air to flow out.

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Originally Posted by corvetteflier
Once the car is up to operating temperature on a warm day or in traffic, it makes little difference when the t-stat opened. Conversely, opening too soon on a cold day is not a good idea. I adjusted the fans with my Intune up ~ 10% at every level. This is the best way to keep the car running cooler. The thermostat is irrelevant in traffic or on warm days. Once it's open, it's open.
We don't really worry about cold days too much here in Lake Havasu.
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Originally Posted by Not So Fast
We don't really worry about cold days too much here in Lake Havasu.
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Yeah, but your thermostat opens pretty quickly even if stock in the AZ heat. Normal driving here in CO on a mild day, my temp is ~190. On a warm day, in city traffic--not stop and go, the early fans rarely let it go over 200. I think the highest I've seen is 205-208 when sitting at a light for a while on a hot day with the A/C on. And once underway, the temp drops quickly. I think the highest temp I've ever seen on a car in traffic was ~230 in summer stop and go in downtown Boston with my '74 455 T/A. Those old big blocks ran hot as hell even with no t-stat.
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Originally Posted by 09_BSM_Z51
Here is about the most recent thread regarding the subject.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-settings.html

When I get the stat installed I will modify my fan settings to the first setup mentioned in the above thread. My vararam install is what has made my car run a bit hotter in traffic, I'm hoping the 160* tstat and fan setting changes will get it to run cooler in all situations.
I went ahead and changed up the fan settings to what was recommended in the thread I linked. So far so good. Car gets up to about 201* then backs down quick to 198* sitting parked. I'll pay close attention and make sure the fans aren't melting themselves, but so far this seemed to be exactly what I needed. I got up to 215* today in stoplight city traffic so this is a big change. It's not even in the mid 80's yet

Oh, here is the settings I used.

92 degree= 25%
196 degree= 50%
199 degree= 75%
203 degree= 90%
etc. degree= 90%

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I typically set the lowest cell to 0 so the fan doesn't run all the time.
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I typically set the lowest cell to 0 so the fan doesn't run all the time.
Whoops, I mean 192* at 25% not 92*

Even stock due to summer heat, AC blasting, and traffic here the fans are on all the time. I'm going to pay close attention, I may make some changes if I feel the fans are running excessively. If I'm on the freeway, which is where I do 75% of my driving, the fans will be fine and won't have to be on all the time.
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Yeah, but your thermostat opens pretty quickly even if stock in the AZ heat. Normal driving here in CO on a mild day, my temp is ~190. On a warm day, in city traffic--not stop and go, the early fans rarely let it go over 200. I think the highest I've seen is 205-208 when sitting at a light for a while on a hot day with the A/C on. And once underway, the temp drops quickly. I think the highest temp I've ever seen on a car in traffic was ~230 in summer stop and go in downtown Boston with my '74 455 T/A. Those old big blocks ran hot as hell even with no t-stat.
My El Camino (sold last year) 454 Sq Port ran at 190'-210 but had all proper fan and very importantly proper shroud. And up here that's saying a lot.






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