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Old Mar 22, 2017 | 10:40 PM
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So dumb question but is there a difference in the c6 z06 vs c6 zr1 front and rear calipers? I'm sure rotors are different material but same size?
Also does all the vette stuff bolt on to each other? So zr1/z06 can bolt onto a base with out extra parts (caliper/rotors) or no?


Or is it better off going stoptech/brembo/bbk
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The ZR-1 has Brembo, Z06 has junk.

I would use the ZR-1 or aftermarket. I went with Wilwood.

They all bolt up, but, wheel clearance can be an issue, so check that first.

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The ZR-1 has Brembo, Z06 has junk.

I would use the ZR-1 or aftermarket. I went with Wilwood.

They all bolt up, but, wheel clearance can be an issue, so check that first.
There's not work needed to fit ZR1 brakes on a ZO6, just a direct bolt on? Are there differences in the rotors or any other components?

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ZR1 uses carbon rotors to the tune of a grand each. Brake pads aren't cheap either.
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Originally Posted by ZO6junkie77
There's not work needed to fit ZR1 brakes on a ZO6, just a direct bolt on? Are there differences in the rotors or any other components?
You need calipers, pads, rotors and lines. Big money if you buy new.

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Originally Posted by advancivic
So dumb question but is there a difference in the c6 z06 vs c6 zr1 front and rear calipers? I'm sure rotors are different material but same size?
Also does all the vette stuff bolt on to each other? So zr1/z06 can bolt onto a base with out extra parts (caliper/rotors) or no?


Or is it better off going stoptech/brembo/bbk

Full on BBKs from suppliers net you all the bells and whistles but there's a more cost effective alternative for the street enthusiast on a budget:

The Wilwood Aero6 front and FNSL4 rear CALIPER KITS. These kits, while using some the same items found in the complete BBKs, are re engineered to be used on oem spec rotors. This includes the 13.4 and 14" front as well as the 13.0 and 13.4" rear rotors.

Depending upon what you have now, what you want to run and what you pay for rotors...the caliper kits can be had for just north of $1600 leaving ample room for rotor brand or size of choice yet still come in well under $2k total.

Not the most ideal for hard core open track days (but have been used as such) where the weight savings of the 2pc and properly designed rotor come into play. But with most such kits easily breaking the $3000 barrier these pack a punch for value and function.
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So zr1 would be best bang for the buck used


Z06 isn't a upgrade from a base brakes?


I'm coming from a car that had brembo calipers and hawk pads and stoptech rotors

My base brakes suck


I use the car for daily and go up and down mountain passes I do a few tt events and maybe one nasa event a year mostly mountain
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Originally Posted by advancivic
So zr1 would be best bang for the buck used

Z06 isn't a upgrade from a base brakes?
Z06 have funky pads and pins that stick. I liked my base brakes better than the Z06 ones, replaced them with the full Wilwood with floating rotors and have not had any trouble with them in 8 years and they work great on the track.



I did SKF performance bearings with long studs at the same time as the brakes.
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Nice it looks like I can go wilwood front and rear with rotors and pads for $1300-1500




Question are all corvette calipers brembos or just zr1?
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The wilwoods should outperform the oem z06 correct?
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As shown here the answer is a definite no. The Wilwoood kits shown here are not what you're likely looking for from a pure performance standpoint. The size and integrity of what is linked is not your ideal choice.

The two links are apples to oranges.

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Originally Posted by advancivic

Question are all corvette calipers brembos or just zr1?
Just ZR-1 are Brembo, the others come from Australia. Dave Cook was the head engineer on the C6 and he didn't like Brembo and did not like steering wheel controls, so both came after he retired.

I can not emphasize enough the fact that you need to make sure your wheels cover whatever brakes you buy. I have BBS wheels on the Vette and had to use 1/8" spacer on the front with the Wilwoods. I put Brembos on my Mustang and had to get 20" wheels to clear the calipers.

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Originally Posted by timd38
You need calipers, pads, rotors and lines. Big money if you buy new.
Well yes I know that, but I know coming from BMW's, if you swap brakes between various years of M3's you need certain brackets to make things work. If you put ZCP brakes on a non ZCP M3 you need specific brackets to fit the calipers and rotors. That's more what I mean; is there any brackets or machining needed to fit them or is it as simple as taking OEM ZR1 components and bolt right on?
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Originally Posted by ZO6junkie77
Well yes I know that, but I know coming from BMW's, if you swap brakes between various years of M3's you need certain brackets to make things work. If you put ZCP brakes on a non ZCP M3 you need specific brackets to fit the calipers and rotors. That's more what I mean; is there any brackets or machining needed to fit them or is it as simple as taking OEM ZR1 components and bolt right on?
They bolt up, simple job. The rotors are pricey and damage easily. There is a cover that you can get for the rotors so you don't damage them when you have the wheels off.

The story you told is why I don't buy German cars anymore.

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Originally Posted by Todd TCE
As shown here the answer is a definite no. The Wilwoood kits shown here are not what you're likely looking for from a pure performance standpoint. The size and integrity of what is linked is not your ideal choice.

The two links are apples to oranges.

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So you're saying the wilwoods wouldn't perform better then zr1 or z06 oem caliper and rotors?
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Originally Posted by timd38
Just ZR-1 are Brembo, the others come from Australia. Dave Cook was the head engineer on the C6 and he didn't like Brembo and did not like steering wheel controls, so both came after he retired.

I can not emphasize enough the fact that you need to make sure your wheels cover whatever brakes you buy. I have BBS wheels on the Vette and had to use 1/8" spacer on the front with the Wilwoods. I put Brembos on my Mustang and had to get 20" wheels to clear the calipers.
Thank you, as far as wheels I'm not too concern I'll be buying wheels after I do a brake swap.

Would you say the wilwoods are better then factory zr1/z06?
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Originally Posted by advancivic
Thank you, as far as wheels I'm not too concern I'll be buying wheels after I do a brake swap.

Would you say the wilwoods are better then factory zr1/z06?
One more time, the Z06 and ZR1 are not the same. Z06 are junk and ZR1 are Brembo
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One more time, the Z06 and ZR1 are not the same. Z06 are junk and ZR1 are Brembo
Would you say the wilwood would be better than zr1 tho? Esp at the cost standpoint and performance?
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the zr1 carbon rotors are a thousand bucks. each.

that's not including pads and calipers.

you could also look at the AP racing brakes from essex parts. They have a nice set up too. wilwood is not the only game in town.
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Originally Posted by advancivic
So you're saying the wilwoods wouldn't perform better then zr1 or z06 oem caliper and rotors?

That's pretty much the case yes. The parts above are nothing more than four pot calipers for the stock 12.8" front and 12" rear rotors. Nothing wrong with them....if you run 17" wheels and want to enhance the feel, have easy changing pads and a dressed up look they're awesome.

But they have nothing in common with the true larger size Z06 parts and the Aero6/FNSL4 caliper kits for 14" front and 13" rear rotors. They are not even on the same plane as the Z06 fronts mentioned in the image above which are huge by comparison.

If you have the base C6 car now you already have these rotors (without holes in them) on the car now. (Shameless plug: you can get the caliper kits without the drilled rotors for as little as $1119) What's missing here is MORE ROTOR. They won't fit ANY other size rotor and anyone here will tell you; aside from street creed you'll be looking for improvements from rotor size. I won't argue the pros and cons of drilled rotor, if you've been around the forums for any length of time you know it's been talked about for years. My only comment there: if you ever track the car; don't do it.

Like I said; nothing wrong with them. Sold a few to the street cruisers who want nice looking parts and the small benefits they offer. But they are not sold as any kind of performance product. It's a lateral move mostly. IF you plan to keep 17s its a great buy vs the full on 13" BBKs however- but for a slightly smaller set of rotors than they come with.

If you run 18s and truly want value buy:

1. The Z06 kits
2. The larger Caliper kits and some Z06 rotors spec rotors
3. A complete BBK for the C5/6


*Sure I'd love to have your business. Equally important however is that you make an informed choice and not one based on pretty pictures on eBay where the sellers really no nothing about what is being sold and the pros/cons of it. It's one of those things that can later turn a Wilwood buyer into a Wilwood bad-mouther. Not a problem with the parts, a problem with the application of the parts! Buy informed.

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