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Old May 13, 2017 | 02:59 PM
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I'm getting ready to pull the transmission on my 08 six speed to fix the 2nd gear syncronizer, so I thought it would be a good idea to go ahead and replace the clutch while I'm there. What are you guys using for replacement clutches in these cars? It is bone stock right now and will probably stay that way, but I could get a wild hair and decide to put a SC on it at some point.
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Old May 13, 2017 | 09:19 PM
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your stock clutch is the same as the ZO6
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Old May 15, 2017 | 08:11 AM
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your stock clutch is the same as the ZO6
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Old May 15, 2017 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by 1bigeagle
I'm getting ready to pull the transmission on my 08 six speed to fix the 2nd gear syncronizer, so I thought it would be a good idea to go ahead and replace the clutch while I'm there. What are you guys using for replacement clutches in these cars? It is bone stock right now and will probably stay that way, but I could get a wild hair and decide to put a SC on it at some point.
If you are series about a SC, then I would get a dual disc set up like Mantic. Stock feel, but with much more grab power. If you decide to keep the car stock with minor bolt-ons, then the oem LS3/7 clutch is just fine. If you plan 500+ rwhp, definitely would go dual disc. The stock clutch is known to go higher, but why risk it if you have the chance to upgrade.

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Old May 16, 2017 | 01:26 PM
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I just said this in another post, I've had the mindset of "get a clutch that will support the most power I'll likely ever make because I don't want to do it again". Both times I did that, I hated the clutch and either ripped it out, or hated driving the car because of it.

Multi-disk aftermarket clutches tend to chatter _and_ rattle. I haven't tried every clutch manufacturer, but I've tried a couple of the most popular and I didn't like them. I'm nearly convinced all aftermarket multi-disk clutches chatter. However, if you insist on getting a multi-disk clutch, I'd consider the Mcleod RST or some other clutch with organic disks.

The forum loves Mantic, Monster and Mcleod. All 3 of those manufacturers have happy and unhappy customers. They all make similar claims and I suspect they all drive pretty similar if you're comparing the same type of friction material on the disks.

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Thanks, I've actually been looking at the Mcleod RST but haven't decided what I am going to do yet.
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I just said this in another post, I've had the mindset of "get a clutch that will support the most power I'll likely ever make because I don't want to do it again". Both times I did that, I hated the clutch and either ripped it out, or hated driving the car because of it.

Multi-disk aftermarket clutches tend to chatter _and_ rattle. I haven't tried every clutch manufacturer, but I've tried a couple of the most popular and I didn't like them. I'm nearly convinced all aftermarket multi-disk clutches chatter. However, if you insist on getting a multi-disk clutch, I'd consider the Mcleod RST or some other clutch with organic disks.

The forum loves Mantic, Monster and Mcleod. All 3 of those manufacturers have happy and unhappy customers. They all make similar claims and I suspect they all drive pretty similar if you're comparing the same type of friction material on the disks.

Cars with a cam and twin disc clutch will tend to rattle at idle.

Organic discs have a less chance of chatter, however will heat up quicker at the track.

If the car is tracked, ceremetallic discs are better choice.

With that said, my stock cammed organic twin disc Mantic does not rattle at idle or chatter.

OP: Whichever clutch you purchase, following the recommended break-in procedure.

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Originally Posted by Mike's LS3
Cars with a cam and twin disc clutch will tend to rattle at idle.

Organic discs have a less chance of chatter, however will heat up quicker at the track.

If the car is tracked, ceremetallic discs are better choice.

With that said, my stock cammed organic twin disc Mantic does not rattle at idle or chatter.

OP: Whichever clutch you purchase, following the recommended break-in procedure.
Doesn't have to be a cam'd car. My stock cam'd Z06 rattles at idle with two different multi-disk clutches. People with loud exhausts notice it less. Most people don't upgrade to twin disks with stock cams, so maybe it seems that it requires a cam, or maybe a cam just exacerbates it. At least in theory, that makes sense.

There are many people that have <insert any of the clutches mentioned in this thread> that say they don't chatter. But it doesn't take much searching to find people running the same clutch with chatter. Mantic organic clutches aren't that common, though. I suspect they are closer to RST and Monster LT1-S when it comes to noise. I think people ultimately learn to drive around the chatter in many cases (usually cerametallic).

Mantic, Monster, Mcleod, Spec, Centerforce, whatever... if the clutch is designed to handle a significant increase in horsepower or more abuse, without sacrificing pedal pressure, a degree chattering and rattling seems inherent. The more power or the more resistance to heat, the more noise and driving nuances.

Triple and quad disks are becoming more prevalent, so maybe those clutches with anti-rattle stuff and organic disks will make the nuances tolerable.
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Doesn't have to be a cam'd car. My stock cam'd Z06 rattles at idle with two different multi-disk clutches. People with loud exhausts notice it less. Most people don't upgrade to twin disks with stock cams, so maybe it seems that it requires a cam, or maybe a cam just exacerbates it. At least in theory, that makes sense.

There are many people that have <insert any of the clutches mentioned in this thread> that say they don't chatter. But it doesn't take much searching to find people running the same clutch with chatter. Mantic organic clutches aren't that common, though. I suspect they are closer to RST and Monster LT1-S when it comes to noise. I think people ultimately learn to drive around the chatter in many cases (usually cerametallic).

Mantic, Monster, Mcleod, Spec, Centerforce, whatever... if the clutch is designed to handle a significant increase in horsepower or more abuse, without sacrificing pedal pressure, a degree chattering and rattling seems inherent. The more power or the more resistance to heat, the more noise and driving nuances.

Triple and quad disks are becoming more prevalent, so maybe those clutches with anti-rattle stuff and organic disks will make the nuances tolerable.
Some upgrade to twin disc clutches with the stock cam that are boosted, including myself. While I don't disagree with what you say, I also believe proper clutch break-in-procedure will alleviate some of the chatter issues people are experiencing.
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Originally Posted by Mike's LS3
Some upgrade to twin disc clutches with the stock cam that are boosted, including myself. While I don't disagree with what you say, I also believe proper clutch break-in-procedure will alleviate some of the chatter issues people are experiencing.
I'm boosted also. So we're both just data points on the same scatter graph. Our experiences contradict each other.

I will tell you with absolute certainty, I've never had a clutch that I didn't follow the proper break in procedure. I've often gone _longer_ than the required number of miles/clutch cycles and performed additional bedding techniques recommended by the manufacturer after the extended normal break in process had failed to produce a non-chattering clutch.
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I'm actually going through this whole process myself, though I had to fix a minor fluid leak on my transmission. I went with the OEM clutch, because my '05 is bone stock and doesn't need anything more than OEM. Plus, it was the most affordable clutch.

Here's what I replaced mine with:
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/luk-04-216

There's a matching Flywheel to go with it if you need a new one of those as well.
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I think the safest bet is to go with a ZR1 clutch.

Lingenfelter has one that’s setup for non ZR1 applications
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