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Old Aug 17, 2017 | 07:11 AM
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"Corpse Performance"?????? There IS an outfit with that name?
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Old Aug 17, 2017 | 07:57 AM
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You really should have saved the ad. I am curious how you were acting in the dealer to get them to tell you to get the **** out. That is pretty extreme even if they want to blow you off.
I did keep screen shots of the add before they deleted it.

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Calm. The GM had a fit when I asked the question "Why would you mislead a customer" that's what started the words on their part. I can honestly say that I never once used profanity nor raised my voice. A customer in the dealer actually said, if this is how you treat customers we will not be buying from you and walked out.

It was far from my doing. My guess is they realized they fucked up and I had them by the sack so they went to the extreme. So be it. I have contacted the BBB and have sent in letters to all 3 major media networks and a few local media networks.
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Old Aug 17, 2017 | 07:58 AM
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"Corpse Performance"?????? There IS an outfit with that name?
Yes. They are out of AZ. Joe is the owner.
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Old Aug 17, 2017 | 09:24 AM
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Yes. They are out of AZ. Joe is the owner.
Incorrect.

Cordes performance, not corpse.
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Old Aug 17, 2017 | 09:31 AM
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Cordes performance, not corpse.
My apologies. I must have fat fingered my phone. Thank you for the correction Unreal.
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Old Aug 17, 2017 | 10:20 AM
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I'm not qualified in US law, but under English/Commonwealth common law, there's a term that applies to used car purchases: "caveat emptor" (buyer beware). Therefore, used car sales are presumed to be at the risk of the buyer and, consequently, a purchaser has to ensure that he exercises the requisite diligence to ensure he's getting what he wants. That does not preclude a claim of fraudulent misrepresentation, however, where the seller knowingly makes a false statement to induce the buyer to make the purchase or to justify the price. I suspect these basic principles also apply in all of the US jurisdictions.
The problem with grounding such a claim here, is that the dealer may very well claim that he was also duped into believing that the car was what he said it was. In fact, I'm sure that he would run that defense. That might work for the "internals", but it's actually pretty easy to identify LS heads from the casting number on the front corner of the passenger side cylinder head. If you look at the picture below, you can see it under the single shielded yellow wire coming out if the red plug, although you can't see the number there easily, it's very easy to see on a stock engine. iirc, the casting numbers on the LS2 heads are 0243 and the LS3 is 0821. So, if he's a GM dealer, he'll have a hard time pleading ignorance of, at the very least, the falsity of his claim that it had a LS3 top end. At the very least, I would call the GM customer service hotline or send them an email, and lodge a formal complaint.
Even if you do not get your money back, that ***** really should lose his franchise, imho.
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Old Aug 17, 2017 | 10:37 AM
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Thank you for the information. I plan to exhaust every avenue possible to make an example out of the dealership and it's practices. It won't be pushed under the rug. Thank you again for this info.


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I'm not qualified in US law, but under English/Commonwealth common law, there's a term that applies to used car purchases: "caveat emptor" (buyer beware). Therefore, used car sales are presumed to be at the risk of the buyer and, consequently, a purchaser has to ensure that he exercises the requisite diligence to ensure he's getting what he wants. That does not preclude a claim of fraudulent misrepresentation, however, where the seller knowingly makes a false statement to induce the buyer to make the purchase or to justify the price. I suspect these basic principles also apply in all of the US jurisdictions.
The problem with grounding such a claim here, is that the dealer may very well claim that he was also duped into believing that the car was what he said it was. In fact, I'm sure that he would run that defense. That might work for the "internals", but it's actually pretty easy to identify LS heads from the casting number on the front corner of the passenger side cylinder head. If you look at the picture below, you can see it under the single shielded yellow wire coming out if the red plug, although you can't see the number there easily, it's very easy to see on a stock engine. iirc, the casting numbers on the LS2 heads are 0243 and the LS3 is 0821. So, if he's a GM dealer, he'll have a hard time pleading ignorance of, at the very least, the falsity of his claim that it had a LS3 top end. At the very least, I would call the GM customer service hotline or send them an email, and lodge a formal complaint.
Even if you do not get your money back, that ***** really should lose his franchise, imho.
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Old Aug 17, 2017 | 11:53 AM
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So does it have ls3 heads or not?
Either way, a ls3 bottom end would not have supported big power.
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Old Aug 17, 2017 | 11:56 AM
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So does it have ls3 heads or not?
Either way, a ls3 bottom end would not have supported big power.
No it does not. Stock LS2.

I actually got in touch with the owner just a short while ago and he is sending me the info he has done to the car so I have accurate info.

He stated he never told the dealer any of this and they misinformed me.
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