Brake Problem
Said they bled the system and that my master cylinder is bleeding back into my booster. Quoted me 1500 bucks to repair it.. brakes are same as when I took it there Got home cut the car off and took the vacuum line off brake booster and it has plenty of suction..... wouldn't it not have suction if the booster was bad?
Said they bled the system and that my master cylinder is bleeding back into my booster. Quoted me 1500 bucks to repair it.. brakes are same as when I took it there Got home cut the car off and took the vacuum line off brake booster and it has plenty of suction..... wouldn't it not have suction if the booster was bad?
What the dealer is saying is that the master cylinder is leaking past its input shaft seal and bleeding pressure into the booster. Unbolt the master from the booster and see if you see brake fluid in the booster.
Were you low on brake fluid when you took it in? That fluid should have gone somewhere.
When you "disconnected" the ABS module, do you mean you broke the brake lines and removed the module? or do you mean just disconnected the electrical connector? Air in the ABS module is bled by cycling the module with a Tech 2. Sometimes air is very stubborn and takes a little to get it all out.
Good luck and let us know what you find.
So - you have some options here...
If you Just disconnected the electrical connection to the ABS module - no air got into the system. So - if the brakes are spongy - you have a hydraulic issue somewhere in the system. You need to figure out what the problem is and resolve it. Replacing the Master Cylinder is a roughly 1 - 1.5 hour job, and the new master is probably about $200 from the dealer. Then you need to do a brake bleed (see below).
If however - you did disconnect any brake lines - you almost certainly got some air into the system, and it's quite possible that a good brake bleed will resolve the problem. Head to another stelership, and tell them that you want them to do a full brake fluid flush including the ABS module. This should run about 1 hour (maybe 1.5) - and about $10 to $20 in parts (brake fluid).
If you have a leak in the master cylinder - the fluid in the reservoir should be dropping as you use the brakes. You could park the ground on level ground, and make a mark at the current fluid level in the reservoir - and see if it falls... If the fluid level stays constant - then the odds you have a leak are LOW !!!
Even if the dealer is replacing both the Master and the Power Booster - and doing the full brake bleed - $1,500 seems more than a little bit high.
As lowflier stated - the right way to do a full brake system bleed involves utilizing the Tech II do cycle the valves in the ABS unit while the system is being bled - but some of the better scantools also have this capability as well, so this job does not need to be taken to a Chevy dealer - a good independent can probably do the job - and may be a LOT less.
So - if you're saying that the stealership tried to do a full system bleed - and that they were unsuccessful due to what they believe is a leaking master cylinder, then that's one thing. If that is the case - I would look to bring the car to either another stealership to get a price for a Master Cylinder replacement and a full bleed, or to a competent independent to do the Master Cylinder replacement, and either have them do the full bleed (if they have a tool that can activate the ABS valving) - or return it to another Chevy service dept. for the bleeding.
If the stealership didn't try to do the full bleed - saying that they need to replace the Master Cylinder first - I'd recommend taking the car to a different dealership, and seeing if they can attempt the full bleed. Remember - the Tech II that the Chevy service departments use is the same for all the GM brands - so a Buick, Cadillac, or even a GMC service dept. will have the ability to do the full system bleed for you.
Again - $1,500 just sounds way high to me....
Either way, it just sounds like you need to find someone to cycle the ABS module to get the stuck air bubble out of the brake system.
My old Snap-on MODIS scanner will cycle the ABS system, so any good shop should be able to do it. Like I said, air stuck in the module is very stubborn to remove. Lots of places to get stuck.
Good luck and keep us posted.
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